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ron187 Apr 19, 2018 1:27 pm

Lounge Access Upon Arrival?
 
I'm going to be flying on a shorthaul BA flight arriving in LHR and then departing on a Virgin Atlantic flight later that day out of T3. What are the chances I could use my BA ticket and Silver card to access the plethora of wonderful One World lounges in T3 before my Virgin flight departs?

gms Apr 19, 2018 1:30 pm

No chance!

KARFA Apr 19, 2018 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by ron187 (Post 29660975)
I'm going to be flying on a shorthaul BA flight arriving in LHR and then departing on a Virgin Atlantic flight later that day out of T3. What are the chances I could use my BA ticket and Silver card to access the plethora of wonderful One World lounges in T3 before my Virgin flight departs?

unfortunately not possible at all. You need to be departing on a oneworld operated and marketed flight to access those lounges.

DYKWIA Apr 19, 2018 1:31 pm

About 0% chance.. But you knew that already :D

ron187 Apr 19, 2018 1:45 pm

Ah too bad - I'm not used to the European lounge access rules. I can get into AA lounges on either end of my domestic flight and nobody bats an eye. Thanks for the quick replies. Much appreciated!

Genius1 Apr 19, 2018 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by ron187 (Post 29661045)
Ah too bad - I'm not used to the European lounge access rules. I can get into AA lounges on either end of my domestic flight and nobody bats an eye. Thanks for the quick replies. Much appreciated!

Admirals Club membership rules differ from oneworld rules.

These are the oneworld rules:

https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access

eefor jfp Apr 19, 2018 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by ron187 (Post 29661045)
Ah too bad - I'm not used to the European lounge access rules. I can get into AA lounges on either end of my domestic flight and nobody bats an eye. Thanks for the quick replies. Much appreciated!

if you're flying Virgin, you'll leave from T3 where AA has their club. If you have your Admiral's Club card, do you also need a same day boarding pass to get in? You didn't used to and I don't know the answer, so I'm wondering. The AA website says you only need a boarding pass if you want to access Alaska or Qantas lounges.

madfish Apr 19, 2018 3:06 pm

There are also a couple of paid lounges in T3 you may be able to use if you have access via priority pass or similar.

sunshinebob Apr 19, 2018 3:20 pm

Can you use the AA Arrivials lounge at T3 airside?

terms and conditions for entry.

Sealink Apr 19, 2018 4:03 pm

Priority Pass have the Plaza Premium Arrivals Lounge in T3... but it's landside.

jerry a. laska Apr 19, 2018 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by sunshinebob (Post 29661449)
Can you use the AA Arrivials lounge at T3 airside?

terms and conditions for entry.


Not if flying to LHR on BA shorthaul.

lostinlondon Apr 19, 2018 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 29661643)
Not if flying to LHR on BA shorthaul.

Yes, but all AA club members have access, regardless of onwards flight (according to AA.com)

jerry a. laska Apr 19, 2018 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by lostinlondon (Post 29661669)
Yes, but all AA club members have access, regardless of onwards flight (according to AA.com)

The Arrivals Lounge is not an Admirals Club and flying BA shorthaul into LHR will not provide access to the Arrivals Lounge even if one is an Admirals Club member. (I was responding to sunshinebob's post about Arrivals Lounge access).

An Admirals Club member would have access to the Admirals Club by virtue of Admirals Club membership.

But we haven't yet established if the OP is an Admirals Club member or is merely seeking access by status.

lostinlondon Apr 19, 2018 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 29661699)
The Arrivals Lounge is not an Admirals Club and flying BA shorthaul into LHR will not provide access to the Arrivals Lounge even if one is an Admirals Club member. (I was responding to sunshinebob's post about Arrivals Lounge access).

An Admirals Club member would have access to the Admirals Club by virtue of Admirals Club membership.

But we haven't yet established if the OP is an Admirals Club member or is merely seeking access by status.

Fair, just assuming an AC membership, which is obviously very different.

popmagnet Apr 19, 2018 5:39 pm

If you don't mind paying, the No. 1 Lounge is nicer than any of the oneworld lounges in T3 imho.

madfish Apr 19, 2018 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by popmagnet (Post 29661956)
If you don't mind paying, the No. 1 Lounge is nicer than any of the oneworld lounges in T3 imho.

Really? I think you’ll be in a (very small) minority with that opinion.

popmagnet Apr 19, 2018 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by madfish (Post 29661990)


Really? I think you’ll be in a (very small) minority with that opinion.


Huh, interesting. The food isn't fantastic but for me the furnishings are just much nicer and the couple of times I've been there it's had a quiet, chilled atmosphere. The library areas feel a lot more peaceful than anything you can get at the oneworld lounges. Having a staffed bar just feels nicer than self-pour too. Talking about the business lounges of course, I haven't had the pleasure of the first class ones at T3.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 20, 2018 2:04 am


Originally Posted by popmagnet (Post 29662017)
Huh, interesting. The food isn't fantastic but for me the furnishings are just much nicer and the couple of times I've been there it's had a quiet, chilled atmosphere. The library areas feel a lot more peaceful than anything you can get at the oneworld lounges. Having a staffed bar just feels nicer than self-pour too.

I hope this doesn't come across as piling on, but I'm also in the group which would query this somewhat. I fully accept tastes are very subjective, so I don't want to completely knock your views for six, however.....

The No. 1 lounge is directly above the BA lounge and the one feature where it has a definite advantage over the oneworld lounge is the view, since it's the same level as Cathay but in a better position. So it is quite similar to the view from the BA First Dining area but one level up and runs the length of the lounge - which is also length wise rather than going deep into the terminal building. But that's about it. There is never a time when the No. 1 lounge is quieter than the oneworld lounges with 2 partial exceptions: mid morning to late lunch when AA can get quite busy, and late afternoon, early evening in Cathay. Both obviously dictated by those airlines' schedules. BA and QF (so far) wouldn't get to this position. Otherwise No. 1 has to from time to time block Priority Pass admissions since they are full up, from early evening onwards, with the late longhaul services that leave T3, including a number of A380s. And the way they block PP admissions is that they put "Reserved" signs in the better seating in the Club and Library sections which thereby take account, space wise, of those who pre-booked directly for admission. This then gradually leads to every seat being taken and eventually PP travellers being sent to Aspire around the corner. Which usually isn't quite so crowded.

The furniture, food and drink provision is very similar to the No. 1 lounge service that BAEC customers had to - well - endure in LGW North before the merciful move to LGW South. I don't think many people in this forum would go back to No. 1 given a choice, though admittedly that's up against a particularly good BA lounge in LGW. The furniture is leisure and family oriented, No 1 gets quite a lot of travellers with children, presumably trying to ease stress levels ahead of late longhaul flights. With sofas and table groups for 4+ people, so singles and couples end up sharing a table. The food is a menu of a 4 hot items ordered over the bar (with AM and PM menus), including what has now evolved into the Fish Finger Wrap, the previous incarnation having excited much comment in this forum. The cold buffet is just a salad bar and cake selection similar to LGW, and all the oneworld lounges have significantly more options. The drink provision is also similar to LGW, and similar to AA Admirals, but the other 3 lounges have much better option. Water, including sparkling, comes from filtered tap, so not mineral water from a bottle.

So I really can't see a reason for using No. 1, and at busy times it would be better to find a corner in one of T3's restaurants. Mid morning, early afternoon, I guess No 1 will be fairly quiet and not unpleasant, but so would all the oneworld lounges except perhaps AA Admirals (which is ironic given that there is a consensus that is the weakest of the 4 lounges). There is quite a large unused former lounge alongside No. 1, I can't remember who used to be there, but for a time HAL used it for public seating as poorly advertised quiet zone. Quiet it certainly was! It's now just a big empty hall, so hopefully No. 1 will spread into it, or another lounge operator will take over the space.

More information on the LHR paid-for lounges in the new FT forum for Lounges.


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