London - New Zealand - Taipei - London
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 25
London - New Zealand - Taipei - London
A bit of a novice when it comes to all things BAEC and tiers. Out of traveling for work, I've managed to gain Bronze, and new tier points year just reset so I'm back at zero.
I was wondering what would be the best way to maximise tier point earning, and at an OK price for a trip over July / August this year. I need to do a visa run - so would need to go London - New Zealand, stay for 3-4 weeks, then tack on a trip to Taipei for a week, then back to London. Realize that Taipei is a bit out of the way and not a standard stopover like Singapore or Hong Kong - but hoping I could swing it? I wouldn't mind stopping by Singapore for a couple of days if that helps?
Is it worth getting a One World RTW ticket for this type of trip? I think I would need to fly in the same direction so might need to go something like London - USA (NY / Chicago / LA) - NZ - Taipei - London?
[Secondary question] Also I think it is more worth flying with One World, but a little part of me wants to try and hit KrisFlyer Gold as I signed up to Infinite Journeys and if I complete 3 trips via Singapore Airlines I could get Star Alliance Gold. But, seeing as I'm based out of London, I'm thinking One World status might be better. Does anyone have any experience with this accelerated earn, and how quickly it gets awarded (ideally I could use it for the Koru lounges in New Zealand?).
I was wondering what would be the best way to maximise tier point earning, and at an OK price for a trip over July / August this year. I need to do a visa run - so would need to go London - New Zealand, stay for 3-4 weeks, then tack on a trip to Taipei for a week, then back to London. Realize that Taipei is a bit out of the way and not a standard stopover like Singapore or Hong Kong - but hoping I could swing it? I wouldn't mind stopping by Singapore for a couple of days if that helps?
Is it worth getting a One World RTW ticket for this type of trip? I think I would need to fly in the same direction so might need to go something like London - USA (NY / Chicago / LA) - NZ - Taipei - London?
[Secondary question] Also I think it is more worth flying with One World, but a little part of me wants to try and hit KrisFlyer Gold as I signed up to Infinite Journeys and if I complete 3 trips via Singapore Airlines I could get Star Alliance Gold. But, seeing as I'm based out of London, I'm thinking One World status might be better. Does anyone have any experience with this accelerated earn, and how quickly it gets awarded (ideally I could use it for the Koru lounges in New Zealand?).
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 25
I've had a look at a RTW ticket and it's about £3000 in economy. I'm not sure if that's a good deal or not? I really have no idea what would be a good deal. I've done various searches online and they come back with varying prices in all sorts of airline combinations. So the range I've seen is anywhere from £2000+.
If I can get to silver from this trip that would be great, in economy. Business would be great for returning to London, but I don't think I could really afford anything more than £3500 for the whole thing.
If I can get to silver from this trip that would be great, in economy. Business would be great for returning to London, but I don't think I could really afford anything more than £3500 for the whole thing.
#6
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 707
Google flights is your friend. A simple multi city search using 1st August as your start date then 3 weeks in NZ & 1 week in TPE shows China Airlines at £1270 and OW mixture at £1600 ish economy?
Much better than £3k RTW if you have specific destinations and times?
As an aside I LOVE Taiwan & Taipei. Amazing country & such friendly people - enjoy ^
Much better than £3k RTW if you have specific destinations and times?
As an aside I LOVE Taiwan & Taipei. Amazing country & such friendly people - enjoy ^
#7
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 25
Google flights is your friend. A simple multi city search using 1st August as your start date then 3 weeks in NZ & 1 week in TPE shows China Airlines at £1270 and OW mixture at £1600 ish economy?
Much better than £3k RTW if you have specific destinations and times?
As an aside I LOVE Taiwan & Taipei. Amazing country & such friendly people - enjoy ^
#8
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,762
ITA Matrix seems broken right now (anyone else getting an error?) but a very quick Google Flights search shows fares for example on MH to NZ allowing stopovers at around £840 in July, from which your side trip to TPE could be constructed. There are lots of possibilities.
However if you're entertaining spend up to £3,500, you really should be able to get the whole thing or at least most of it in business, including lots of TPs... as long as you're a bit flexible as to dates etc. Especially if willing to start in Europe.
I'll try and have a play around on Matrix on the train in the morning.
However if you're entertaining spend up to £3,500, you really should be able to get the whole thing or at least most of it in business, including lots of TPs... as long as you're a bit flexible as to dates etc. Especially if willing to start in Europe.
I'll try and have a play around on Matrix on the train in the morning.
#9
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,573
[Secondary question] Also I think it is more worth flying with One World, but a little part of me wants to try and hit KrisFlyer Gold as I signed up to Infinite Journeys and if I complete 3 trips via Singapore Airlines I could get Star Alliance Gold. But, seeing as I'm based out of London, I'm thinking One World status might be better. Does anyone have any experience with this accelerated earn, and how quickly it gets awarded (ideally I could use it for the Koru lounges in New Zealand?).
#10
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
You can do Cathay Pacific business to Auckland, returning from Taipei, for £2,300, if you don't mind starting in Warsaw and tacking on a leg from Madrid or Amsterdam to get back to London.
This would earn you 500 TPs.
Add in a 25 TP AKL-SYD-TPE flight in Qantas economy for £450 and you're at 525 TPs. If you were to fly to WAW before your trip and also back to London in Club Europe, that would take you to 605 TPs - but you still wouldn't be silver as you would only have three of your four eligible BA flights.
This would earn you 500 TPs.
Add in a 25 TP AKL-SYD-TPE flight in Qantas economy for £450 and you're at 525 TPs. If you were to fly to WAW before your trip and also back to London in Club Europe, that would take you to 605 TPs - but you still wouldn't be silver as you would only have three of your four eligible BA flights.
#11
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
Even better:
As above, just add a £100 Malaysia Airlines economy fare and a night in KL beforehand. With this option, your positioning flights don't need to be in business, either.
As above, just add a £100 Malaysia Airlines economy fare and a night in KL beforehand. With this option, your positioning flights don't need to be in business, either.
#12
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,762
Again just as an example from a very quick search ex LON, you can get:
02/07 LHR-KUL-AKL
29/07 AKL-SYD-KUL
05/08 KUL-LHR
on MH and QF in Business for £2,292
plus non-stop KUL-TPE return in Business within that for £353
Plenty to play with... [ETA: and I see others have done so above already. I still can't get Matrix to work at all for some reason on either browser.]
02/07 LHR-KUL-AKL
29/07 AKL-SYD-KUL
05/08 KUL-LHR
on MH and QF in Business for £2,292
plus non-stop KUL-TPE return in Business within that for £353
Plenty to play with... [ETA: and I see others have done so above already. I still can't get Matrix to work at all for some reason on either browser.]
#13
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
Again just as an example from a very quick search ex LON, you can get:
02/07 LHR-KUL-AKL
29/07 AKL-SYD-KUL
05/08 KUL-LHR
on MH and QF in Business for £2,292
plus non-stop KUL-TPE return in Business within that for £353
Plenty to play with... [ETA: and I see others have done so above already. I still can't get Matrix to work at all for some reason on either browser.]
02/07 LHR-KUL-AKL
29/07 AKL-SYD-KUL
05/08 KUL-LHR
on MH and QF in Business for £2,292
plus non-stop KUL-TPE return in Business within that for £353
Plenty to play with... [ETA: and I see others have done so above already. I still can't get Matrix to work at all for some reason on either browser.]
You just have to get your four status qualifying flights (BA operated/marketed) elsewhere.
#14
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: OneWorld Emerald (BA GGL), *A Silver (Miles & Less), Skyteam Pleb (KLM FlyingBlue), Mucci Platinum
Posts: 904
Again just as an example from a very quick search ex LON, you can get:
02/07 LHR-KUL-AKL
29/07 AKL-SYD-KUL
05/08 KUL-LHR
on MH and QF in Business for £2,292
plus non-stop KUL-TPE return in Business within that for £353
Plenty to play with... [ETA: and I see others have done so above already. I still can't get Matrix to work at all for some reason on either browser.]
02/07 LHR-KUL-AKL
29/07 AKL-SYD-KUL
05/08 KUL-LHR
on MH and QF in Business for £2,292
plus non-stop KUL-TPE return in Business within that for £353
Plenty to play with... [ETA: and I see others have done so above already. I still can't get Matrix to work at all for some reason on either browser.]
#15
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,766
The bit of your question not so far considered is whether Star is better than oneworld. It would have to be Star Gold to be worth anything, Star silver is pretty underpowered. But the core to this is what you future travel plans are, not just after getting status but also the year after since there are implications over a 2 year period on both schemes. And can you maintain the 4 eligible flights on BA / IB over the longer term?