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KARFA Apr 14, 18 8:49 am

FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] Ė 26 October & 2 November 2018
 
Back again, FT outing to the BA simulators later this year. This will be a repeat of the outings I have previously organised in 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017.

A bit of background on my own experience so far. I am very enthusiastic/geeky about flying, and I know a few others on here enjoy what happens in the cockpit as well as just being sat in the back enjoying the champagne.

I have one hour in a Cessna 172 which I did in 2013, and which you can read about here, and since then a few hours in various PA28 aircraft. I do plan to go for a PPL at some stage, but money and time needed mean it wonít be for at least a year or two yet.

I have also been for a couple of Emirates sim sessions at their Aviation Experience near the O2 arena in London. This is very much at the more fun end of simulators. The only things that work on the cockpit are the throttle (inc. reversers), yoke/side stick, rudders, foot brakes, and gear. The primary and navigation displays work but you can't adjust anything on them. They have recently upgraded them so the speedbrake lever and a flaps lever work as well. All the buttons shown are just graphics, there are no working buttons. So basically it does feel like a very sophisticated home simulator, kind of FSX but sat in a simplified cockpit. It is not equivalent to a full simulator, and there is no motion. However, if you accept these limitations it is actually very enjoyable.

I also went to Virtual Aerospace near Northampton in February 2014 on their 737 simulator. This is basically a fully workable fixed base cockpit with fsx graphics projected in front. More absorbing and real than the Emirates experience, but still not a full motion or fully wrap-around graphics. I have also previously gone to the 737 iPILOT simulator near Edgware Road in London.

Finally over the last few years I have been going fairly regularly to a fixed base 737-800 simulator near Rochdale. The simulator is this one Flightdeck Experience. As well as the cockpit the guy who owns it has built a cabin as well with 12 seats. You can see photos on the website. You actually get a simulated view from the windows as well. It makes it good for group outings and you can sit in the cabin for the time you are not flying in the cockpit.

I realise we have a wide spectrum of experience on these things, but hopefully it would work. You should certainly not feel you need any experience to come, and in previous years people with no experience have come and enjoyed it.

Please only express an interest if you can make at least one of the dates and are prepared to meet your share of the cost. I realise this is not a cheap activity, but having done it twice now I can say that it is very much worth it.

Rather than doing this as a poll, please just post any date preferences in the thread. I expect we will settle on a specific date in the next month or so, and I hope we have finalised plans by early May. Please say whether you could make 26 October or 2 November or both (donít worry you are not committing to both dates). Also please let me know whether you have a preference for a 777 or a 747 or donít mind either.

florens Apr 14, 18 9:07 am

Thanks for organising again! I can only attend on 26th October. I prefer the 777.

nick.t.davies Apr 14, 18 9:08 am

Iím definitely keen for this. I can do either date and would be happy with either type.

I would also be happy to be in a group of 3.

DeadManFlying Apr 14, 18 9:09 am

KARFA

I'd be interested in attending this year please, the 2nd of November is the only date that works for me and I'd like a go in the 747-400 simulator please before they retire from the field.

Thanks

DMF

RGS5526 Apr 14, 18 9:16 am

As he is based in Leeds, I am surprised that Karfa does not mention the organisation near Harrogate that that runs a 737 simulator (and also an F-111 simulator).

The 737 simulator has hydraulic motion and good but not brilliant visuals.

GeorgeAmbler89 Apr 14, 18 11:30 am

Iíd like to come again this year please with 2 guests (3 people in total) in a group of 4 on 777. We can only do 2nd November.
Iíve also asked a couple of other friends to try and make up our own group of 4, I will keep you posted on this.Thanks

flylikelinz Apr 14, 18 11:53 am

2nd November for me! this time the 747 please :)

Fontana Apr 14, 18 1:44 pm

KARFA - Assume A320, A380 or the B787 are not available?

allturnleft Apr 14, 18 4:21 pm

Thanks for organizing this Karfa
Do you get a special group deal?

KARFA Apr 15, 18 2:48 am


Originally Posted by linzbh (Post 29640125)
2nd November for me! this time the 747 please :)


Originally Posted by GeorgeAmbler89 (Post 29640058)
Iíd like to come again this year please with 2 guests (3 people in total) in a group of 4 on 777. We can only do 2nd November.
Iíve also asked a couple of other friends to try and make up our own group of 4, I will keep you posted on this.Thanks


Originally Posted by DeadManFlying (Post 29639678)
KARFA

I'd be interested in attending this year please, the 2nd of November is the only date that works for me and I'd like a go in the 747-400 simulator please before they retire from the field.

Thanks

DMF


Originally Posted by nick.t.davies (Post 29639674)
Iím definitely keen for this. I can do either date and would be happy with either type.

I would also be happy to be in a group of 3.


Originally Posted by florens (Post 29639673)
Thanks for organising again! I can only attend on 26th October. I prefer the 777.

Thanks all. I have noted dates and preferences. 777 isn't guaranteed unfortunately as they are being heavily used atm so I can't promise we will get one. However, if we do I will do my best to ensure everyone gets their preference. At the end of the day the 747 is a fantastic aircraft to fly too.

KARFA Apr 15, 18 2:58 am


Originally Posted by RGS5526 (Post 29639690)
As he is based in Leeds, I am surprised that Karfa does not mention the organisation near Harrogate that that runs a 737 simulator (and also an F-111 simulator).

The 737 simulator has hydraulic motion and good but not brilliant visuals.

Thanks RGS5526. I have seen that one before but never tried it for some reason. Having looked at the website again I think it's a 737 classic so lots of dials which I don't like very much.


Originally Posted by Fontana (Post 29640395)
KARFA - Assume A320, A380 or the B787 are not available?

No chance unfortunately. Only the 747 and 777 are available to the public.


Originally Posted by allturnleft (Post 29640768)
Thanks for organizing this Karfa
Do you get a special group deal?

Our price is certainly cheaper than the price for the public on the website. Based on 4 in the simulator we are paying £425 per person, the website price is £449. Also we usually get shown around the cabin safety training section on the way to or from the sims (you may have seen photos of that in previous years). And I think that you have the added advantage of being in a group and being in the sim for nearly 4 hours rather than just being in an out in 1 hour - obviously in either case the amount of time you would have flying yourself would be the same.

GeorgeAmbler89 Apr 15, 18 3:22 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 29641889)
Thanks all. I have noted dates and preferences. 777 isn't guaranteed unfortunately as they are being heavily used atm so I can't promise we will get one. However, if we do I will do my best to ensure everyone gets their preference. At the end of the day the 747 is a fantastic aircraft to fly too.


Thanks @KARFA - Iíll let you know if I manage to get a fourth person ASAP. No worries about the 777, the 747 was also great last year!

Thanks

GeorgeAmbler89 Apr 15, 18 3:31 am

Hi again KARFA

My father in law now wants to join us so we can make up a group of 4.

Thanks

KARFA Apr 15, 18 4:03 am


Originally Posted by GeorgeAmbler89 (Post 29641972)
Hi again KARFA

My father in law now wants to join us so we can make up a group of 4.

Thanks

Thanks for letting me know GeorgeAmbler89.

flatlander Apr 15, 18 5:33 am

I would like to come, I have a definite (but not absolute) preference for the 747, and I can do either date.

I would also like to bring along a work colleague, not an FT person but an aircraft enthusiast none the less. He's reliable in the matters of payment and attendance.


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