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FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] 26 October & 2 November 2018

FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] 26 October & 2 November 2018

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Its back again! Simulator choice this year is 747 and 777, but no one will be forced to fly on something they dont want though, and I would imagine the 747 is the one most want (and should try).

Previous Trip Reports for the 747-400 Simulators
Cost
Each simulator holds 4 people and one instructor. The total cost of a 4 hour session in one simulator would be 1,700 (this is cheaper than BA offer to the public), and this would give around 55-60 minutes of time per person on the controls although we would rotate during the session so this would be split in to a number of smaller time chunks. Please note that the prices on the BAFT website are quoted as 1,700 excluding VAT per simulator, but we have been offered them for a price of 1,700, including VAT.

As we are charged per simulator generally a group in multiples of 4 would be ideal, with cost per person being 425. If we only had three people for example we would still have to pay 1,700 so the cost per person increases to 567 per person, although we would each get a bit more time at the controls. If we end up with 5 though it may well make sense to go to 1 simulator to reduce the cost and have say 45/50 minutes each per simulator.

Basically once we confirm numbers we can make a choice if we don't have a multiple of 4, although a multiple of 4 would be ideal.

Payment
Once the date is confirmed and booked each person would pay their share directly to BAFT, this is likely to be around September or early October when payment is due. It would be non-refundable so if you don't show you would unfortunately not get your money back, but this stops those that do show all of a sudden having to cover any no-show's share. If you do commit and pay and find in a few months you can't make it one option may be to see if a friend, work colleague, or other FT'er can come and take your place and they can pay you directly for your share which you have already paid to BAFT.

I will ensure that we are absolutely not going to be in a situation on the day where I am asking those that have come along to dip in to their pockets to cover any additional cost. Sorry this seems a bit harsh, but I don't think anyone wants to turn up finding instead of 3,400 divided by 8 it is suddenly only divided by 6.

Dates & Times
Unfortunately weekends are not possible for a group booking, so the options are weekdays. My own preference would be a Friday and probably 1900-2300 as (coming from the regions) I would only need to take half a day off work and wouldn't have to worry about getting back for working the next day. For those in London or around the South East you could come in the evening and there would be no need for any holiday being used.

If we booked for a date more than 3 months in advance we can hopefully get our choice of date & time. I have already confirmed with BA that the dates offered below are available.

The dates being offered are:
  • Friday 26 October 1900-2300
  • Friday 2 November 1900-2300

Location
The simulators are all now at the new Engineering Base at Heathrow near Hatton Cross tube station - they used to be at Cranebank which is where we went in 2014, but they were moved last year and our 2015-2017 visits were at the new facility. http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/baft/our-location/our-location]More details here[/url].

As this is part of a secure area you would need a passport or other photo ID to enter.

Threads from previous years:
October 2014 -> FT Flight Simulator Outing to BAFT Cranebank and Trip Report here
October 2015 -> FT 747-400 Flight Simulator Outing to BAFT Heathrow
October 2016 -> FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow
October 2017 -> FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow
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Old Oct 6, 18, 5:37 am
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Good stuff. Thanks for the update. Looking forward to it.
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Good stuff. Thanks for the update. Looking forward to it.
Hi, no problem Joe Public.

​​​​​​​When you get a moment could you send me a reply to the PM I sent on Thursday? Many thanks.
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Thats great, thanks @KARFA

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@MotheatenHound and @florian - when you get a moment could you send me a reply to the PM I sent on Thursday? Many thanks.

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@MotheatenHound and @florian - when you get a moment could you send me a reply to the PM I sent on Thursday? Many thanks.
Just replied to you Sir !
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@florian are you there? Really need to hear from you immediately if you want to still come. Could you send me a reply to the PM I sent last Thursday please?
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Just been sending out PMs and email requesting passport details as we need to submit them beforehand.

@Soddon @Kungpo @flylikelinz @bhbloke I assume your passport details haven't changed from last year, I still have the details so I haven't sent you an email/PM and there is no need to send me anything unless you have got a new passport.
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@Weary Nomad just sent you a PM
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@Weary Nomad just sent you another PM, some good news
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Updated list for the two evenings. I have slightly tweaked the groups on the first evening just to ensure everyones preferences are met. Also @Weary Nomad is now off the subs bench as well. If anyone isn't happy with the changes do let me know and I will see what I can do.

No changes to the second evening.

Thanks to everyone for sending in details over the last few days. PMs/emails are going out tomorrow with details for the evening and instructions for payment.

Friday 26 October

747 (Group 1)
@Soddon
@flatlander
flatlander+1
@Weary Nomad

747 (Group 2)
@KARFA
@nick.t.davies
@flylikelinz
@pilotngb

777 (Group 3)
@Joe Public
@Kungpo
@MotheatenHound
@bhbloke

Friday 2 November

747 (Group 1 - group of three)
@BoeBus
BoeBus+1
BoeBus+2

747 (Group 2)
@GeorgeAmbler89
GeorgeAmbler89+1
GeorgeAmbler89+2
GeorgeAmbler89+3

747 (Group 3)
@DeadManFlying
@Pascoe
@KARFA
@djwam

Reserve
@france77
@jfallesen
@TomMM
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Wicked

I'm cool with that. Is it safe to book the hotel now?
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Is it safe to book the hotel now?
Yes absolutely
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Morning gang, much to my annoyance I am going to have to drop out of the event on the 26th. To say I’m disappointed is an understatement.

Many thanks to KARFA for putting together a great outing, hopefully I can make it next time around. Have a great evening to all those taking part, especially my replacement from the subs bench ��
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Morning gang, much to my annoyance I am going to have to drop out of the event on the 26th. To say Im disappointed is an understatement.

Many thanks to KARFA for putting together a great outing, hopefully I can make it next time around. Have a great evening to all those taking part, especially my replacement from the subs bench ��
thanks for the post.

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if any of you can come on 26 October could you send me a PM immediately please.

Hopefully I can find someone at this stage, however you realise if I cant you are still on the hook for your share of the costs - I have made that clear right from the start.
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Yes absolutely
Excellent. Hotel booked so I can enjoy a few after sim beers with all of you.
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