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FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] – 26 October & 2 November 2018

FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] – 26 October & 2 November 2018

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It’s back again! Simulator choice this year is 747 and 777, but no one will be forced to fly on something they don’t want though, and I would imagine the 747 is the one most want (and should try).

Previous Trip Reports for the 747-400 Simulators
Cost
Each simulator holds 4 people and one instructor. The total cost of a 4 hour session in one simulator would be £1,700 (this is cheaper than BA offer to the public), and this would give around 55-60 minutes of time per person on the controls – although we would rotate during the session so this would be split in to a number of smaller time chunks. Please note that the prices on the BAFT website are quoted as £1,700 excluding VAT per simulator, but we have been offered them for a price of £1,700, including VAT.

As we are charged per simulator generally a group in multiples of 4 would be ideal, with cost per person being £425. If we only had three people for example we would still have to pay £1,700 so the cost per person increases to £567 per person, although we would each get a bit more time at the controls. If we end up with 5 though it may well make sense to go to 1 simulator to reduce the cost and have say 45/50 minutes each per simulator.

Basically once we confirm numbers we can make a choice if we don't have a multiple of 4, although a multiple of 4 would be ideal.

Payment
Once the date is confirmed and booked each person would pay their share directly to BAFT, this is likely to be around September or early October when payment is due. It would be non-refundable so if you don't show you would unfortunately not get your money back, but this stops those that do show all of a sudden having to cover any no-show's share. If you do commit and pay and find in a few months you can't make it one option may be to see if a friend, work colleague, or other FT'er can come and take your place and they can pay you directly for your share which you have already paid to BAFT.

I will ensure that we are absolutely not going to be in a situation on the day where I am asking those that have come along to dip in to their pockets to cover any additional cost. Sorry this seems a bit harsh, but I don't think anyone wants to turn up finding instead of £3,400 divided by 8 it is suddenly only divided by 6.

Dates & Times
Unfortunately weekends are not possible for a group booking, so the options are weekdays. My own preference would be a Friday and probably 1900-2300 as (coming from the regions) I would only need to take half a day off work and wouldn't have to worry about getting back for working the next day. For those in London or around the South East you could come in the evening and there would be no need for any holiday being used.

If we booked for a date more than 3 months in advance we can hopefully get our choice of date & time. I have already confirmed with BA that the dates offered below are available.

The dates being offered are:
  • Friday 26 October 1900-2300
  • Friday 2 November 1900-2300

Location
The simulators are all now at the new Engineering Base at Heathrow near Hatton Cross tube station - they used to be at Cranebank which is where we went in 2014, but they were moved last year and our 2015-2017 visits were at the new facility. http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/baft/our-location/our-location]More details here[/url].

As this is part of a secure area you would need a passport or other photo ID to enter.

Threads from previous years:
October 2014 -> FT Flight Simulator Outing to BAFT Cranebank and Trip Report here
October 2015 -> FT 747-400 Flight Simulator Outing to BAFT Heathrow
October 2016 -> FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow
October 2017 -> FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow
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Old Apr 15, 18, 7:10 am
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I would like to come, I have a definite (but not absolute) preference for the 747, and I can do either date.

I would also like to bring along a work colleague, not an FT person but an aircraft enthusiast none the less. He's reliable in the matters of payment and attendance.
Thanks flatlander. Any preference on a group of 3 or 4?
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Old Apr 15, 18, 8:24 am
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I'd love to join you, either date, either type.
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Old Apr 15, 18, 8:59 am
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2nd of November for me + 1 pls
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Old Apr 15, 18, 9:23 am
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Any chance of it being earlier? Can't do so late on a Friday....
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Old Apr 15, 18, 10:52 am
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I'd love to join you, either date, either type.
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2nd of November for me + 1 pls
Thnaks, noted.

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Any chance of it being earlier? Can't do so late on a Friday....
Unfortunately not. It has always been late to give me a chance to get down from work.
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Thanks for organising. Please count me in too.
Either date, either type fine.
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Old Apr 15, 18, 2:28 pm
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Thanks or organising! I'd be keen to join too. Happy with either date and either plane.
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Old Apr 15, 18, 3:56 pm
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Hello,

I'm in. Either date and either aircraft. Ideally I can join a group that has already flown in the sim in order to cut out that first circuit to get familiar with the sim.

First time for me last year and I have to admit I was nervous attending the event. What a blast. Highly recommend it for anyone sitting on the fence.

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Old Apr 15, 18, 4:45 pm
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Hi KARFA!

So excited that this is on again for another year! I can do either date and either sim. I'm off to collect avgeeks to come along, will probably go for 4 people/slots as last year
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Originally Posted by flatlander View Post
I would like to come, I have a definite (but not absolute) preference for the 747, and I can do either date.

I would also like to bring along a work colleague, not an FT person but an aircraft enthusiast none the less. He's reliable in the matters of payment and attendance.
Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Thanks flatlander. Any preference on a group of 3 or 4?
So, the colleague is Ralf and he has some glider flying experience, fixed base sim experience, and a lot of time on MS Flight Sim.

We would both much prefer:
Group of 3 (at increased cost, of course),
747 sim,

and somewhat prefer date in November if possible.

Thanks again for volunteering to organise this.

(Note to everyone else: do not back out at the last moment, it really screws things up for KARFA and the deal we get with BAFT)
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Old Apr 16, 18, 4:36 am
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Hotel - HGI again?

I intend to stay in the Hilton Garden Inn again, and propose it as the bar to gather in afterwards.

(Note to first-timers: booze after flight, not before)
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Old Apr 16, 18, 9:35 am
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I intend to stay in the Hilton Garden Inn again, and propose it as the bar to gather in afterwards.

(Note to first-timers: booze after flight, not before)
Same here!
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Old Apr 18, 18, 6:34 am
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Hey guys, I am back and interested again for round 2 of this. As part of some nested itineraries I have a flight to ARN booked over the weekend of October 26th, so that would be the ideal weekend for me. That being said,I can change that flight if need be.

My preference is for the 747, but I really don't mind either.

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Old Apr 18, 18, 6:44 am
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I'd love to join again this year, flexible on sim type, group size and date (although with a slight leaning to the October date)
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Old Apr 21, 18, 8:23 am
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Hi, would like to join, available for the November date, with a preference for the 747. That's my birthday present !
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