LON - NY too much choice?
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LON - NY too much choice?
Hi,
We have a 2-4-1 voucher I am looking to use.
wecan go from any London airport.
our dates are flexible and we are looking at a Friday to Friday to give us the weekend to recover.
We have 104,000 avoid at present and are thing of September to mid October
The issue we have is my height at 2m 2cm so I would need Prem Eco at least.
With their being so many different aircraft with the possibility that within the same aircraft there could be different interiors how is one supposed to choose?
i as tempted by the BA001 but I kinda want the airport to be the start of the trip which isn’t really the case atLCY, that said it’s not a ga,e changer and LCY is quite good for getting home.
THEn we have the seat selection issue as I don’t always get to see it before I book.
oh first world problems
PS - does anyone know why I can’t see what I’m typing on here, it seems to shift up under the top of the text box
We have a 2-4-1 voucher I am looking to use.
wecan go from any London airport.
our dates are flexible and we are looking at a Friday to Friday to give us the weekend to recover.
We have 104,000 avoid at present and are thing of September to mid October
The issue we have is my height at 2m 2cm so I would need Prem Eco at least.
With their being so many different aircraft with the possibility that within the same aircraft there could be different interiors how is one supposed to choose?
i as tempted by the BA001 but I kinda want the airport to be the start of the trip which isn’t really the case atLCY, that said it’s not a ga,e changer and LCY is quite good for getting home.
THEn we have the seat selection issue as I don’t always get to see it before I book.
oh first world problems
PS - does anyone know why I can’t see what I’m typing on here, it seems to shift up under the top of the text box
#4
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as a yardstick, I booked CW LHR-JFK on 241 for April 2018 (currently booked UD 747) 100,000 avois and £500 per person. I’m pretty happy with this and it sounds like something you could go with too?
my companion checked cash rates today and it’s £6k per person!
my companion checked cash rates today and it’s £6k per person!
#5
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see my post above - and if you’ve nothing else to use the avois on, I say go for CW both ways (my reasoning: get to enjoy the daytime flight food/drink on way out, get to lie down to sleep on way back as it’s a 9pm flight home)
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I was impressed by the interiors standards aboard both 789 and 86J-744 on my recent flights to and from IAD. Both had smart looking CW and WT+ cabins. If you choose a 744, Expert Flyer's seat maps will indicate whether or not they are currently scheduled to operate with 86J.
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Yes, I was going to make that same suggestion, particularly in the bulkhead if you want to have room around the knees during the flight. Further back in the WTP cabin is ok if you are able to get your legs under the seat in front, but it's a very good WTP product on the 787 from the look of it. One thing to consider it WTP out, early flight, and AUP or POUG or whatever into CW for the return, to minimise jet lag, Try not to snooze going to the USA.
On the other hand one could try a Super J to JFK, buying WTP and see if you can game the system into pushing you into CW. I have heard of examples of the entire WTP cabin ending up in CW on that service (with the Do&Co catering to boot). Even if it didn't happen, you would have one of the best IFEs in the skies to distract you and hopefully a short flight time.
Also consider things like BOS, BWI and PHL, which all have fast train services to NYC, if that gets the right cabin or Avios option. Or make a virtue of a night in PHL or BOS (not sure I can extend that suggestion to Baltimore!).
Probably the one to avoid is LGW unless it's dirt cheap. Or they end up running the refurbed 777 on that sector, which I don't think has happened so far. LCY would be fantastic if you can make that happen, it's the sort of flight no-one forgets.
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More related to Y travel on this route I was looking earlier at flights over the summer and to fly out of LGW in a lot of cases is at least £100 cheaper that flying out of LHR. It's actually something that's consistent on almost every day. It seems BA is trying to market the LGW option as the real 'budget' option to get to NYC. And actually the've made the prices quite reasonable in a lot of cases. Perhaps those more in the know could comment on this.
Also having taken this option a month or so ago and occasionally checking flight loads on EF, it seems BA also oversells the Gatwick flight regularly. I got bumped from Y to J last time as I guess a lot of people opt for the cheaper Y fare.
Also be advised OP that booking a Newark route, whilst a convenient way to get into the city using the train, it doesn't always guaretnee a 787 as they fly a lot of 777s to Newark.
Finally, for Jetlag reasons, the AA day flight return is a great option. It's not super early in the morning like the BA one but you can get to sleep in your own bed that same day. I'm on it tomorrow.
Also having taken this option a month or so ago and occasionally checking flight loads on EF, it seems BA also oversells the Gatwick flight regularly. I got bumped from Y to J last time as I guess a lot of people opt for the cheaper Y fare.
Also be advised OP that booking a Newark route, whilst a convenient way to get into the city using the train, it doesn't always guaretnee a 787 as they fly a lot of 777s to Newark.
Finally, for Jetlag reasons, the AA day flight return is a great option. It's not super early in the morning like the BA one but you can get to sleep in your own bed that same day. I'm on it tomorrow.
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More related to Y travel on this route I was looking earlier at flights over the summer and to fly out of LGW in a lot of cases is at least £100 cheaper that flying out of LHR. It's actually something that's consistent on almost every day. It seems BA is trying to market the LGW option as the real 'budget' option to get to NYC. And actually the've made the prices quite reasonable in a lot of cases. Perhaps those more in the know could comment on this.
Also having taken this option a month or so ago and occasionally checking flight loads on EF, it seems BA also oversells the Gatwick flight regularly. I got bumped from Y to J last time as I guess a lot of people opt for the cheaper Y fare.
Also be advised OP that booking a Newark route, whilst a convenient way to get into the city using the train, it doesn't always guaretnee a 787 as they fly a lot of 777s to Newark.
Finally, for Jetlag reasons, the AA day flight return is a great option. It's not super early in the morning like the BA one but you can get to sleep in your own bed that same day. I'm on it tomorrow.
Also having taken this option a month or so ago and occasionally checking flight loads on EF, it seems BA also oversells the Gatwick flight regularly. I got bumped from Y to J last time as I guess a lot of people opt for the cheaper Y fare.
Also be advised OP that booking a Newark route, whilst a convenient way to get into the city using the train, it doesn't always guaretnee a 787 as they fly a lot of 777s to Newark.
Finally, for Jetlag reasons, the AA day flight return is a great option. It's not super early in the morning like the BA one but you can get to sleep in your own bed that same day. I'm on it tomorrow.
Is the reason everyone is aghast about Gatwick because of the aircraft or the airport? There must be a half decent lounge down there.
We’ve just been out for dinner and discussed it, tempted by the LCY out and say back from Boston or the like.
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Aghast is probably putting it a bit strongly. It's just the aircraft, in many ways the newly fitted lounges, security, train connections and compactness of LGW make it a strong proposition for BA's customers. LGW only has 777 aircraft, which are not much loved around these parts (self included) but actually for a relatively short trip across the Atlantic it's not such a bad idea (compared to say 11 hours to Cancun). So I guess there is a case if the price is right They have only just started refitting the 777s there, and these have very good In Flight Entertainment systems, but the bulk of LGW's longhaul jets are right at the other extreme, with very old IFE systems and some of the seats are somewhat battered.
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Hi,
I think that also that there is the rumoured reputation ( don't know if the statistics prove it or not) that if the a 777 at LGW is delayed then the JFK route would be one to be cancelled ( as pax could be put on the LHR fights) although there has not been that maby comments on here recently/
Regards
TBS
I think that also that there is the rumoured reputation ( don't know if the statistics prove it or not) that if the a 777 at LGW is delayed then the JFK route would be one to be cancelled ( as pax could be put on the LHR fights) although there has not been that maby comments on here recently/
Regards
TBS