No claret in the CCR!
Mar 24, 2018, 8:59 pm
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I'm not really sure why anyone would get upset a particular 'type' of wine isn't available. Being claret is absolutely no guarantee of quality. Indeed you'll get far higher quality for the same price by choosing something without the 'name' so really it's quite sensible for BA not to offer it it would just be a sop to creating an illusion of luxury without having the budget to really deliver it. Especially with demand for claret soaring in many parts of the world purely as a status symbol, an airline is very unlikely to give you anything decent. Frankly give me a good Malbec any day. With a lump of bife de chorizo. Heaven for less than a tenner.
Mar 25, 2018, 2:08 am
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I'm not really sure why anyone would get upset a particular 'type' of wine isn't available. Being claret is absolutely no guarantee of quality. Indeed you'll get far higher quality for the same price by choosing something without the 'name' so really it's quite sensible for BA not to offer it it would just be a sop to creating an illusion of luxury without having the budget to really deliver it. Especially with demand for claret soaring in many parts of the world purely as a status symbol, an airline is very unlikely to give you anything decent. Frankly give me a good Malbec any day. With a lump of bife de chorizo. Heaven for less than a tenner.
Mar 25, 2018, 4:13 am
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I only had a brief visit yesterday so 'made do' with LPGS.
Will be back later in the week for a longer visit, so will certainly check what the status is then.
Will be back later in the week for a longer visit, so will certainly check what the status is then.
Mar 25, 2018, 4:29 am
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I've been fed a lot of "almost Bordeaux" from a lot of other parts of the world, and while many were quite fine wines in their own right, that right was not Bordeaux and they all showed that duplicating the combination of dry mild tannins, aged dried fruit flavours, and very long finish in the mouth of good Bordeaux is quite difficult.
A recent example is Capaia One. It's very nice, but it's too fruity to be Bordeaux, even if they are trying hard to make it like Bordeaux.
So, I would like an actual Bordeaux style wine available, as well as some good southern European red, some South American Malbec or similar, and some Cape Pinotage, and so on. They're different and trying to claim you can substitute one for another is just not on.
A recent example is Capaia One. It's very nice, but it's too fruity to be Bordeaux, even if they are trying hard to make it like Bordeaux.
So, I would like an actual Bordeaux style wine available, as well as some good southern European red, some South American Malbec or similar, and some Cape Pinotage, and so on. They're different and trying to claim you can substitute one for another is just not on.
Mar 25, 2018, 5:42 am
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I'm not really sure why anyone would get upset a particular 'type' of wine isn't available. Being claret is absolutely no guarantee of quality. Indeed you'll get far higher quality for the same price by choosing something without the 'name' so really it's quite sensible for BA not to offer it it would just be a sop to creating an illusion of luxury without having the budget to really deliver it. Especially with demand for claret soaring in many parts of the world purely as a status symbol, an airline is very unlikely to give you anything decent. Frankly give me a good Malbec any day. With a lump of bife de chorizo. Heaven for less than a tenner.
Mar 25, 2018, 6:53 am
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It's threads like this one which make me love FT so much. You are truly my people. Without wanting to make another reference to Cape Town, all I can say is that it could be worse. I'm having to fly AA today.
Mar 25, 2018, 7:54 am
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Mar 25, 2018, 10:47 am
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fascinating but irrelevant. This whole BS about excusing cr-ppy service and product as a first world problem is tiring and irrelevant.
Last I checked the CCR was in London and there are nt any water issues there.
There is a major de premiuming of the product while fares are going up not down. And last I checked BA does not set product based on water supplies in a corrupt country 11 hours flying time away...
2 No, no water issues except when lounge(s) close down due to water flooding ?
Seriously though, do read the above line.3 DO CHECK MY POSTS. I am CONSISTENTLY in favour of calling out poor service...or poor goods that fall short of what is "customary" for that price point. Been chided enough for emphasizing " CUSTOMER" in my posts....to highlight we have lost our way in delivering what the pax wants.....
4 As to " depremiuming" of product ( & services) this forum has umpteen posts on enhancements. At the same time as pointed out upstream a particular brand / varietal may be someone's fav while others prefer brand X. All a matter of one's own priorities. I have been often "counseled" , if you don't like it , pick another carrier !
Mar 25, 2018, 1:43 pm
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True the "deadlines' have been pushed into the future. As I understand it, the dates were decided by if it does not rain to replenish our reservoirs......perhaps people who actually traveled there can tell us if water can be spent " like water" ?
1 "Irrelevant" You have a right to your opinion. It was pointed out to show kinds of things we lament over when "living in heaven" as compared to a majority of humanity.
2 No, no water issues except when lounge(s) close down due to water flooding ? Seriously though, do read the above line.
3 DO CHECK MY POSTS. I am CONSISTENTLY in favour of calling out poor service...or poor goods that fall short of what is "customary" for that price point. Been chided enough for emphasizing " CUSTOMER" in my posts....to highlight we have lost our way in delivering what the pax wants.....
4 As to " depremiuming" of product ( & services) this forum has umpteen posts on enhancements. At the same time as pointed out upstream a particular brand / varietal may be someone's fav while others prefer brand X. All a matter of one's own priorities. I have been often "counseled" , if you don't like it , pick another carrier !
1 "Irrelevant" You have a right to your opinion. It was pointed out to show kinds of things we lament over when "living in heaven" as compared to a majority of humanity.
2 No, no water issues except when lounge(s) close down due to water flooding ?
Seriously though, do read the above line.3 DO CHECK MY POSTS. I am CONSISTENTLY in favour of calling out poor service...or poor goods that fall short of what is "customary" for that price point. Been chided enough for emphasizing " CUSTOMER" in my posts....to highlight we have lost our way in delivering what the pax wants.....
4 As to " depremiuming" of product ( & services) this forum has umpteen posts on enhancements. At the same time as pointed out upstream a particular brand / varietal may be someone's fav while others prefer brand X. All a matter of one's own priorities. I have been often "counseled" , if you don't like it , pick another carrier !
Mar 31, 2018, 9:06 pm
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To be fair, this is a thread discussing the availability of Claret in the CCR and latterly GF too. While I would quite agree that it is a "first world problem", I think you'd have to concede that your original post was designed to get exactly the reaction that it did.
Mar 31, 2018, 11:40 pm
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relevant is that generally there’s an expectation of a product not being delivered.
some may think it a first world problem but that’s where the CCR is located. (At London Heathrow for anyone that ‘missed’ that).
The CCR staff also welcome visitors of all nationalities cultures and creeds, which is more than I can say for what I STILL see at some South African establishments I’ve visited (and will not return to or provide with any business as a result.)
Apr 1, 2018, 8:03 am
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