BA 767, what route?
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Someone in BA management suggested to me that it may lead to more use, tactically, of longhaul aircraft from time to time on routes such as MAD, ARN, ZRH, GVA and domestically. They are looking at ways of doing what Cathay do to slip a shorthaul trip between longhauls. That kind of happens already occasionally, but I doubt it will form a significant part of the schedule in the medium term. 767s were also good for cargo movements.
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I love flying on the 767, but with condition BA are leaving them in, its best to send them out to pasture. Both occasions in the last few months I have been on a 767, in ET & CE, the interior of the aircraft have been a terrible state of disrepair and on one flight the left side engine, sounded under immense strain when ascending to cruising altitude.
ill miss flying on them, but at the same time, they are overdue retirement.
ill miss flying on them, but at the same time, they are overdue retirement.
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Maybe a cargo requirement is why there seems to be a daily 767 on that route at the moment? Certainly when I've sent mail from Frankfurt to addresses in the UK, I've tracked it through Heathrow so would presumably have taken a FRA-LHR route.
I guess it makes sense to introduce 320/321s on that route in place of the 319s because it's a pretty busy route but the 767 feels too big for that short a flight. I think Lufthansa use mostly A321s for the same route as well.
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I love flying on the 767, but with condition BA are leaving them in, it’s best to send them out to pasture. Both occasions in the last few months I have been on a 767, in ET & CE, the interior of the aircraft have been a terrible state of disrepair and on one flight the left side engine, sounded under immense strain when ascending to cruising altitude.
ill miss flying on them, but at the same time, they are overdue retirement.
ill miss flying on them, but at the same time, they are overdue retirement.
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Someone in BA management suggested to me that it may lead to more use, tactically, of longhaul aircraft from time to time on routes such as MAD, ARN, ZRH, GVA and domestically. They are looking at ways of doing what Cathay do to slip a shorthaul trip between longhauls. That kind of happens already occasionally, but I doubt it will form a significant part of the schedule in the medium term. 767s were also good for cargo movements.
Or is it more a case of whichever long haul aircraft has a fairly lengthy multi-hour stop at LHR and can fit in a quick UK/EU hop between long hauls?
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Interesting! Any hints on what aircraft types are likely to be used? Can I look forward to a comfortable WT seat on a 744 or 773 on an occasional domestic hop? Or prepare for a cramped 788?
Or is it more a case of whichever long haul aircraft has a fairly lengthy multi-hour stop at LHR and can fit in a quick UK/EU hop between long hauls?
Or is it more a case of whichever long haul aircraft has a fairly lengthy multi-hour stop at LHR and can fit in a quick UK/EU hop between long hauls?
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My understanding is also that a plane's overall lifespan is also greatly influenced by pressurisation cycles. I wouldn't expect BA to be doing what you suggest too intensely with their high-value wide-bodies unless it really made commercial sense. On the up-side for us as travellers though, it would mean a higher rate of new aircraft being needed :-)
Anyways, I'd love to see some of the long haul fleet working short haul routes. There's not a huge leap in capacity (particularly with the 4-class birds) over the ever denser Airbii and LH seating would be much appreciated!
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Under review. 3 of the LGW slots have been leased to QR, not sure for how long but some days in the summer QR are operating 3 x LGW-DOH, which is a huge increase in capacity..Keeping the B767 at LGW for the summer would perhaps allow a couple of A319 to be transferred to LGW and reduce the cross fleet crew training for the summer. I doubt BA will make any announcement so just watch what happens in July.
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I'm led to believe that the BA 767 retirement is pretty much carved in stone for the end of this year unless significant money is spent on upgrading some elements of the avionics.
Of course, we've seen BA grant stays of execution before, so the issues with the 787 engines, the additional ex-Monarch slots, potential for supply issues with engines for the 320neo, may be enough of a perfect storm to make spending the money worthwhile, but don't hold your breath.
We're not talking about delaying the retirement of one or two aircraft from a larger fleet, but running down a whole fleet.
Of course, we've seen BA grant stays of execution before, so the issues with the 787 engines, the additional ex-Monarch slots, potential for supply issues with engines for the 320neo, may be enough of a perfect storm to make spending the money worthwhile, but don't hold your breath.
We're not talking about delaying the retirement of one or two aircraft from a larger fleet, but running down a whole fleet.