Criteria for Tier Point Steps
Mar 19, 2018, 6:11 pm
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Criteria for Tier Point Steps
I’ve been trying to find a list of BA’s criteria for allocating TPs as opposed to a list of flights with specific values. Does anyone know where this is published, please?
For example, less than 1000 miles = 40 TP in CE, but more than 1000 = 80 TP in CE, based on the Great Circle distance between origin and destination etc?
For example, less than 1000 miles = 40 TP in CE, but more than 1000 = 80 TP in CE, based on the Great Circle distance between origin and destination etc?
Mar 19, 2018, 6:16 pm
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The charts in the earning sticky and TP Run Thread should show you the basics.
The line between 40 and 80 is not quite a clear cut. Between 1000-1150 miles it’s a bit of a mixture with some routes earning 80 shorter than some earring 40. There is a comprehensive list of short haul + routes in the reference posts at the start of the tier point run thread.
The line between 40 and 80 is not quite a clear cut. Between 1000-1150 miles it’s a bit of a mixture with some routes earning 80 shorter than some earring 40. There is a comprehensive list of short haul + routes in the reference posts at the start of the tier point run thread.
Mar 19, 2018, 7:20 pm
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It can differ on OW partners also. On two recent trips to Asia, I got 80 TP for LHR - HEL on AY, and from HKG - SIN on CX, which is further in distance, I only got 40. I did query it, but was told that 40 was correct as it was down to the partner what to credit...
Mar 19, 2018, 11:38 pm
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I’ve been trying to find a list of BA’s criteria for allocating TPs as opposed to a list of flights with specific values. Does anyone know where this is published, please?
For example, less than 1000 miles = 40 TP in CE, but more than 1000 = 80 TP in CE, based on the Great Circle distance between origin and destination etc?
For example, less than 1000 miles = 40 TP in CE, but more than 1000 = 80 TP in CE, based on the Great Circle distance between origin and destination etc?
I've noticed that the lists in my table need updating - apologies.
Mar 19, 2018, 11:56 pm
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The tier point thread highlighted by KARFA is indeed your best place to start. There are tons of exceptions, notably also a long list of Moscow routes making 140 TP even though they are a little under 2,000 miles.
Mar 20, 2018, 12:06 am
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In fact, the only exception that I could spot was HEL-TLV on AY, which is 1,622 miles but is listed there as earning long-haul TPs. That route doesn't fit into any of the known policy exceptions.
Mar 20, 2018, 12:14 am
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Would there be an example of any of the 'shorter' short-haul+ routes where the 80 TP earn has been introduced for commercial reasons, when a route was new? Wasn't that partly the reason the LCY CW to JFK, a.k.a. BabyBus, service for many years earned 210 TP?
For destinations geographically close and with minor mileage difference, like LHR-HEL 1152 miles 80 TP and LHR-TLL 1127 miles, but only 40 TP, it's hard to find the logic behind. If the cut-off line was >1150 miles it would all be understandable, but evidently it isn't.
For destinations geographically close and with minor mileage difference, like LHR-HEL 1152 miles 80 TP and LHR-TLL 1127 miles, but only 40 TP, it's hard to find the logic behind. If the cut-off line was >1150 miles it would all be understandable, but evidently it isn't.
Mar 20, 2018, 1:56 am
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BA: LHR - DME
IB: MAD - DME
AY: HEL - ACE AGP DXB FNC FUE LIS LPA TFN TFS TLV
S7: DME - AGP ALC IBZ KEF TFS VLC
S7: LED - ALC
Mar 20, 2018, 2:01 am
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Mar 20, 2018, 2:36 am
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just to clarify, these are not all sub 2000 mile routers. They are all longer than 2000 miles - apart from lhr-dme, I will adjust the wording to make it more clear for lhr-dme. They are routes one might consider as being shorthaul ones but are actually long enough to be over the 2000 mile threshold so earn 140 tp.
Mar 20, 2018, 2:39 am
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FWIW, here is the list with mileage:-
LHR-DME 1586 mi
MAD-DME 2140 mi
HEL-ACE 2807 mi
HEL-AGP 2086 mi
HEL-DXB 2819 mi
HEL-FNC 2678 mi
HEL-FUE 2844 mi
HEL-LIS 2094 mi
HEL-LPA 2920 mi
HEL-TFN 2915 mi
HEL-TFS 2948 mi
HEL-TLV 2007 mi
DME-AGP 2362 mi
DME-ALC 2132 mi
DME-IBZ 2031 mi
DME-KEF 2109 mi
DME-TFS 3272 mi
DME-VLC 2070 mi
LED-ALC 2007 mi
Mar 20, 2018, 3:31 am
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FWIW, I've now updated the booking class lists in the quick reference table.
Mar 20, 2018, 3:33 am
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Anywhere else it is either 40 up to 2000 miles, then 140 above.
Last edited by KARFA; Mar 20, 2018 at 3:58 am
Mar 20, 2018, 8:31 am
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Thanks KARFA, I’d assumed some logic there and hard boundaries, but EDI-FLR is 1058 miles, just nine miles closer than Helsinki and only offer some 40 TP so I was starting to wonder how random it was. It’s a bit of a shame as I was starting to write some code to screen scrape routes on ITA Matrix, calculate the Tier Points and then suggest the routes and dates that’ should give the most TP for the least money. I would have to start with a lookup table rather than just a straight calculation then.
Mar 20, 2018, 12:20 pm
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As an aside, add LGW-MLA which reliably gives us 80 TP in CE for 1282 miles / 2064 kilometers / 1114 nautical miles.
I assume BA use nautical, not statute, miles of course.
I assume BA use nautical, not statute, miles of course.