Mar 12, 2018, 6:03 am
Last edit by: george77300
NEW NOVEMBER TRAINING FLIGHTS
26 Nov (Tues) to 29 Nov (Fri) on BA456/457 and BA464/465 (Total 16 Flights)
Ding Ding, The next A350 training flight with FTers in NOV. will be:
26 Nov:
457: george77300
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The Oct. A350 familiarisation/training flights dates to MAD (Madrid, Spain) from London Heathrow (LHR) are below; The Aug. training flights are now complete and the calendar for dates the A350 flew in Aug. is in the First post below as an archive.
Oct. 2019 A350 Schedule: (first published 20/08/2019) AT RISK OF CANCELLATION! BOOK WITH AVIOS ONLY AT THIS STAGE IF YOU ARE ONLY FLYING TO TRY OUT THE A350.
Ding Ding, The next A350 training flight with FTers in Oct. will be:
2 Oct:
Oct. 2019 A350 Schedule: (first published 20/08/2019) AT RISK OF CANCELLATION! BOOK WITH AVIOS ONLY AT THIS STAGE IF YOU ARE ONLY FLYING TO TRY OUT THE A350.
Ding Ding, The next A350 training flight with FTers in Oct. will be:
2 Oct:
465: courtster, george77300
5 Oct.
456: plunet +1, Thomas PL +1
464: MrMutton, WoodleyBeacon
465: MrMutton, WoodleyBeacon
6 Oct:
464: Pack
465: Pack, plunet +1
7 Oct:
457: davm666
NO A350 TRAINING FLIGHTS AFTER OCTOBER 7TH. (7TH IS THE LAST DAY!)
If you wish to join in, please post your name directly into the wiki or in the thread and someone will add you. Format for new days or flights:
There is quite a bit of information in post 1 where a FAQ has been written to answer most questions you may have, please read that first! If you notice something missing or an error, please post and this will be added or corrected.
Updated to Post #1394
464: MrMutton, WoodleyBeacon
465: MrMutton, WoodleyBeacon
6 Oct:
464: Pack
465: Pack, plunet +1
7 Oct:
457: davm666
NO A350 TRAINING FLIGHTS AFTER OCTOBER 7TH. (7TH IS THE LAST DAY!)
If you wish to join in, please post your name directly into the wiki or in the thread and someone will add you. Format for new days or flights:
There is quite a bit of information in post 1 where a FAQ has been written to answer most questions you may have, please read that first! If you notice something missing or an error, please post and this will be added or corrected.
Updated to Post #1394
BA A350-1000 training flights meet-ups thread
Nov 6, 2018, 10:22 am
#136
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Absolutely this is needed first. I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. I was just suggesting that given IB / BA relationship then this might be a more suitable route to gaining any flight deck operating experience if necessary.
Nov 6, 2018, 10:41 pm
#137
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Is today the first day the Winter 2019 timetable is bookable? Given the first 350 is expected in summer, will BA start to allocate the aircraft to a winter route? Someone with more time/skill/inclination might be able to dig this out through doing random dummy bookings...
Nov 7, 2018, 12:21 am
#138
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Is today the first day the Winter 2019 timetable is bookable? Given the first 350 is expected in summer, will BA start to allocate the aircraft to a winter route? Someone with more time/skill/inclination might be able to dig this out through doing random dummy bookings...
Nov 9, 2018, 7:31 am
#139
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Is today the first day the Winter 2019 timetable is bookable? Given the first 350 is expected in summer, will BA start to allocate the aircraft to a winter route? Someone with more time/skill/inclination might be able to dig this out through doing random dummy bookings...
Nov 9, 2018, 3:43 pm
#140
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: TXL
Programs: BA GGL/CCR; AB Platinum; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 55
I just read that the A350 is not covering a First Class?
I thought that the A350 will be most likely replace the older B747 and given their main route LHR-JFK I thought that they definitely need a First Class on this route?
Am I missing something or is BA going to increase B789 / B777 on this route?
I thought that the A350 will be most likely replace the older B747 and given their main route LHR-JFK I thought that they definitely need a First Class on this route?
Am I missing something or is BA going to increase B789 / B777 on this route?
Nov 9, 2018, 3:46 pm
#141
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Location: Falkirk, Scotland,VS Red, BA Gold, HH Diamond,UK Amex Plat
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I just read that the A350 is not covering a First Class?
I thought that the A350 will be most likely replace the older B747 and given their main route LHR-JFK I thought that they definitely need a First Class on this route?
Am I missing something or is BA going to increase B789 / B777 on this route?
I thought that the A350 will be most likely replace the older B747 and given their main route LHR-JFK I thought that they definitely need a First Class on this route?
Am I missing something or is BA going to increase B789 / B777 on this route?
It has been posted that the first few deliveries of the A350-1000 will not have first class but the later deliveries will.
Regards
TBS
Nov 9, 2018, 3:50 pm
#142
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,418
Alex Cruz was talking at the recent Capital Markets Day for IAG and said that the A350 being delivered next year will be 3 class. So no F. To replace the mid J 747s. It’s not route specific.
Sometimes it’s more about what they don’t say... there could be more A350s in the future that have the 4 class configuration but as of next year it’s no F for now. The focus will be on the all new CW seat as the A350 is the first to have this as far as we know.
Sometimes it’s more about what they don’t say... there could be more A350s in the future that have the 4 class configuration but as of next year it’s no F for now. The focus will be on the all new CW seat as the A350 is the first to have this as far as we know.
Feb 1, 2019, 7:31 am
#144
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Feb 1, 2019, 9:44 am
#145
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Posts: 373
I understand that BA traditionally does European training flights shortly after delivery but surely offering the new club seat on short sectors is not a good investment return, however temporary the training season is. VS is launching its new Upper Class seat and A350 on key transatlantic routes this year and I would expect BA to do the same.
Feb 1, 2019, 9:56 am
#146
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I don't think that operating new aircraft types on European flights has anything to do with investment return. That's quite beside the point.
Feb 1, 2019, 2:31 pm
#149
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Location: Herts, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH Diamond.
Posts: 3,176
I understand that BA traditionally does European training flights shortly after delivery but surely offering the new club seat on short sectors is not a good investment return, however temporary the training season is. VS is launching its new Upper Class seat and A350 on key transatlantic routes this year and I would expect BA to do the same.
Also VS don't have any short routes to practice on!
Finally don't expect to see this on high profile routes, it has no F
Feb 1, 2019, 2:50 pm
#150
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Location: 59K
Posts: 2,301
When we took the 380 to Chateauroux 4 of us did 4 sectors each in 2 days with 2 training Captains. 16 Line training sectors would take nearly a month for 2 training Capts to cover on a standard long haul roster.
There are several high profile destinations that don't generate much first class revenue beyond redemptions.