chris1979

but imagine a "hub" being built there (or at BHX) by one of the ME carriers: with a great lounge (or two) and direct flights to the US. I'd take that over LHR. e.g. QR Q-Suites STN / BHX to all major US cities. Yes please. Now, I know, pure fantasy given traffic rights etc but that would really shake things up (and possible lead to the demise of BA).

slippers on other a/c too. got them on 787 and 777 just a few days ago - come with the PJ in a White Company PJ bag.

lost_in_translation

Slippers are for ultra-long haul (TYO or further), so yes, not aircraft specific. QR F PJs are also different to QR J ones (pockets, button up front, black, nicer).

Not totally sure why we keep coming back to QR though, as I pointed out above QR F is an extreme example and is in no way representative of what a better quality BA F network out of LHR would probably look like. A BA F of similar quality to LH would, I imagine, be viable to pretty much every destination it is for LH, plus probably a few additional US ones too.

chris1979

I had slippers on ARN - DOH both ways (as well as DOH SYD). They came in the White Company PJ bags. So I assume, given they were on the much short ARN DOH route, they are now in all White Co PJ bags?

lost_in_translation

Hmm, possibly you're right, I haven't had an ARN-DOH where I've been given PJs since the White Company switch

themax

How many of you are truly regular flyers in paid F? (by regular, I mean you are someone who travels in F whenever you are on a BA longhaul plane and the F cabin is sold). I am very privileged to be one of those passengers; and despite my reoccurring gripe that I rarely get my first choice of main course in F inbound to LHR, I still love the product.

BA F is not the best F product in the world, but it is still a fantastic product. I love the beverage selection (especially JW Blue), I find the seats/beds very comfortable, and I like the fact that the food is interesting but not extravagant. For those of you that fly in F as a treat I do understand that you might expect more from the product compared to some (but not all) competitors, but for those of us that are regular flyers in F we appreciate the understated elegance and comfort of F. The service and product is not over the top and not indulgent, just a really comfortable journey with some added luxuries along the way. For us regular F travellers this is EXACTLY what we are looking for from a tried and tested product that is available to most international destinations; something that other carriers will find hard to match (even if they do offer caviar, limos, and a more luxurious experience).

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DFB_london

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Mike P

Possibly if comparing AA but I've had several flights in QR J that have been better than equivalent flights in BA F.

Nicoolio

I remember LH Private Jet a few years ago saying the two top routes for passengers connecting from LH F were FRA - LON/PAR - but no idea on what the volume was or is --

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StingWest

Yes, I enjoy BA's F and it's easily worth a price differential of £150-200 over C which is what they are currently charging TATL. That's not too bad for the bigger seat and greater privacy. If you throw in the Concord Room and First Wing at LHR, as well as the occasional bump in service level, it's certainly worth it to me.

But the big deal for me is that when you book in First TATL, the tickets often become refundable (£150 cancellation fee per direction). In C, the best prices are typically Not refundable.

lost_in_translation

And clean planes, getting your first choice meal, WiFi...

We can all play at listing something selective we don't like about a product.

Mike P

Sorry, don't agree with you. I prefer QR food and the service is usually better in QR J than in BA F. As for the seat, I did almost back to back sectors in BA F and QR J recently, both on 787's, and I found the seat remarkably similar, albeit the QR seat was rather cleaner. I'm 6' 3'' tall and certainly don't find the QR seats cramped.