AdBoy

That would be a brave calculation.

dbthebolt

Most of the comments seem to be focused on higher tier thresholds for CCR. If this comes to pass, I would hope that the individual customer service level (especially on the ground) would be improved along the lines of AA Concierge Key and applied on a consistent basis. One can only dream.....

Fitch

Well, many of us do have quite a lot of choice, especially if we are prepared to take an indirect routing.

My year has just started and I generally prioritize OW in flight searches, just because I appreciate having GGL and would like to retain it for the 19/20 membership year (not least for the Partner Cards which have been a big hit with friends & family).

I currently have 1930TPs worth of OW bookings over the next 12 months (about half on BA) and with a couple of l/h trips still to book, I would certainly have looked at BA/OW first to earn another 1070TPs.

If they now abruptly move the goalposts to 5k then I will give up - 3070 is far too big a stretch. Instead, I will just buy the travel which represents the best value for me, regardless of alliance (which I probably should always have done, but I was captured by BAEC marketing !!).

Geordie405

This is an interesting point of view. Last year I did an AA status challenge to gain Platinum. I had already hit 1500 TPs and so retained Gold, and with a fair bit of domestic US flying lined up I credited those flights to AA so I would earn 8 or maybe 12 x 500 mile upgrade stickers that I could then apply to other flights and be upgraded to domestic First. Of course, that meant that the spend didn't go to BA but it also meant that I missed out on TPs that would have counted towards lifetime Gold. It also meant that I didn't earn a GUF2 which is, actually, one of the major benefits of anything above 1500 TPs.

Compared to a lot of people I do a significant amount of flying but compared to lot of people on here I do next to nothing! It's all relative. I don't do enough to earn a top-tier status with multiple carriers. I do just enough to retain Gold, and on a very good year I may get a GUF2. I have only managed 3500+ once, and I don't see that happening again. I do enough flying with BA that I would have no issue meeting a higher qualifying flight requirement for Gold if that was implemented but if the TP threshold was increased to say 2000 then I would have to ramp up my flying quite a bit. I am sure some will laugh and say "But it's just an extra 500 points" which is true, but when you're only earning 5 points a trip in economy it does need a fair amount of extra flying. For those who suggest I should just fly business I'd say that with the OH and CC in tow that is a lot more. I am, after all, one of those pesky fliers who mainly self-funds

So this year everything is getting credited to BA (and Delta, where I have to fly with someone else due to price or schedule). Of course that doesn't mean that BA is earning off the back of my travel as not everything is JV / TATL and it also means that they are incurring costs as I visit AA / QF / CX lounges. For anyone visiting the QF lounge at LAX, I can definitely recommend the rhubarb trifle

Bronze

I heard that CCR was going to be MORE attainable. I am thinking they may lift the number of BA flight segments to 10 for Gold and 20 for GGL and lower the TP's required to 4000 per year.

I'd like to see all OneWorld airlines introduce a policy that First Class check in and lounges were not available for those flying in economy.

Cymro

The First Wing, perhaps, but moving all of those GCHs in economy out of the Flounge would just displace them into Galleries. (You might not care if you're always in business, but BA would care because of the capacity expansion needed in GC, and probably not much offsetting cost reduction in the Flounge).

madfish

PETER01

Which may I say all stemmed from the opening post and FTr's have added their thoughts and views of what they 'heard':

Most of the posts here though are pure speculation and hearsay and I'm very surprised to read that those who do hold GGL, and who would lose it IF it were raised to 5,000 TP's for requalification would actually support it being increased for GGL's (talking about those on the 3k per year current earning)

Only on Flyertalk but it makes interesting reading!

SuperstarDJ

Still think their best bet would be to raise gold by 3-500 TPs, silver by 200 and up BA segments to 6 or 8 if they want to reduce lounge expenditure.

Trouble is GGL might look wrong at 3000 then, so that’d go up as well!

Mike P

A lot of speculation here but it does seem to make sense to align GGL and CCR and 5000 tier points would seem the obvious point at which to do this. Adding a requirement for a minimum number of BA segments would also make sense at all tiers.

deboyzoned

No it doesn’t.

I really wish people would stop suggesting raising the GGL limit.

Just wait to see what BA will do. Why do so many people on this forum keep feeding BA management!!

ThatT1Feeling

GGL used to be attainable with 2 x 3000 TP years so this isn't such a surprise. In fact, in the past, Gold and Silver had reduced renewal levels. And even if there are 5,000 GGLs, it's a tiny fraction of all BA customers, spending more than standard Golds and Silvers. I really don't see why, if there are more people reaching that level, that BA aren't delighted by this. Quite why they would cut out that demographic and expect the remaining 500 CCR holders to spend enough to replace their revenue just doesn't seem realistic to me.

By all means introduce better service for the 5000 TP bunch, but it makes no sense to dilute benefits for the 5,000 non CCR GGLs. But, yes, increase BA sectors to 10 or 20 for GGL. I think that would be very sensible. Or go based on revenue. I'm bored of spending Ł20 per TP on ET commuting

Filthy Monkey

I wouldn't worry too much about opinions on here influencing the outcome. I suspect this particular change was decided a long time ago.

dcmike

Upping the number of BA segments for Gold would likely send me to *A for good. I'll be both OW Emerald and *A Gold in a couple of months. While I get around six BA segments, usually in CE/CW, per year, it would be difficult for me to get much more than that.

DorsetKnob

It's always amazed me that people can get to higher BA status levels yet fly so few flights with BA, I guess it probably doesn't make a whole load of difference as if they fly few segments they won't be using the benefits.