GGL enhancements
Feb 23, 2018, 11:03 pm
#16
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK/Australia
Programs: BAEC Silver, UA2MM, QF Platinum, VA Platinum., Volare Executive Club
Posts: 2,513
If Mr Cruz makes it too hard for me to retain One World status (being a self-funded traveller), I guess I will just fall back on my lifetime Star Alliance gold membership and One World will be the loser (however small the loss).
But, these things happen.
But, these things happen.
Feb 24, 2018, 12:17 am
#17
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,428
I have long been saying we need something along QF criteria (eg 75% of tps from BA only travel), threshold at 5k minimum (maybe 7 if I am being strict). This should get rid of riff raff. Then we can get this Uber level across the alliance so we can get chairman club, concierge key, Marco Polo select diamond etc when travelling on those airlines.
Feb 24, 2018, 12:58 am
#18
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,570
I have long been saying we need something along QF criteria (eg 75% of tps from BA only travel), threshold at 5k minimum (maybe 7 if I am being strict). This should get rid of riff raff. Then we can get this Uber level across the alliance so we can get chairman club, concierge key, Marco Polo select diamond etc when travelling on those airlines.
Feb 24, 2018, 1:02 am
#20
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL (for now) and Lifetime Gold, Marriott fan thanks to Bonvoy Moments
Posts: 5,115
Hmmm. I’ll hit over 2500 TPs by end of May but won’t requalify for GGL until September, Would be mightily p’d off if they didn’t give appropriate notice (I.e. at leat end of current membership year). And they’d better not change GfL threshold, I was planning on renewing GGL next year by whatever means necessary to get to 35k.
(Man shakes fist angrily with no practical way of delivering on “or else” threat)
(Man shakes fist angrily with no practical way of delivering on “or else” threat)
Feb 24, 2018, 1:03 am
#21
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
I assume most of the ones with CCR card have attained it through travel paid for by their companies.
For those of us that have earned their GGL status through majority personal travel and commuter travel and majority travel on BA should not be punished.
I don"t want the threshold increased to 5000 TP to retain GGL. :-(
For those of us that have earned their GGL status through majority personal travel and commuter travel and majority travel on BA should not be punished.
I don"t want the threshold increased to 5000 TP to retain GGL. :-(
Feb 24, 2018, 1:05 am
#22
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL (for now) and Lifetime Gold, Marriott fan thanks to Bonvoy Moments
Posts: 5,115
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riff_Raff_(rapper)
Feb 24, 2018, 1:08 am
#23
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: BA GGL, LH FTL
Posts: 3,578
A massive increase in the number of TPs to requalify to GGL would actually work in my favour. I would just go back to being a BA regular gold plus Star Alliance Gold in parallel, instead of placing all my eggs in the BA/OW basket.
Feb 24, 2018, 1:10 am
#24
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL (for now) and Lifetime Gold, Marriott fan thanks to Bonvoy Moments
Posts: 5,115
Feb 24, 2018, 1:23 am
#25
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Flatland
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold 1MM, BA Gold, UA Peon
Posts: 6,109
Feb 24, 2018, 1:31 am
#26
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Thailand
Programs: BA Silver (OWS), OZ Diamond (*G), TK Elite (*G), HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 361
Hmmm. I’ll hit over 2500 TPs by end of May but won’t requalify for GGL until September, Would be mightily p’d off if they didn’t give appropriate notice (I.e. at leat end of current membership year). And they’d better not change GfL threshold, I was planning on renewing GGL next year by whatever means necessary to get to 35k.
(Man shakes fist angrily with no practical way of delivering on “or else” threat)
(Man shakes fist angrily with no practical way of delivering on “or else” threat)
Feb 24, 2018, 2:47 am
#27
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 251
Seems to me that the incentive levels need to be at the right place to help BA make more money out of us. They need to weigh the cost of providing the benefits to more people, against the fact that with lower targets, more people will be incentivised to hit them.
From a personal perspective, I realised I could probably hit 5k this year as a one-off, and 3k per year going forward if I make an effort. I would be surprised if BA wasn't making money out of the incremental 3.5k / 1.5k TPs I was aiming for in excess of the 1.5k requirement for Gold (whether this sort of TP-chasing is rational has been done to death!). Nearly all of my TPs are earned on routes where BA sees at least a share of the money.
If they raised the annual requirement to 5k, I wouldn't bother aiming for anything over Gold, so they'd see less money from me. If this was justified by increasing the benefits (which in theory could make me less profitable), I could understand it. If not, it would seem like they've lost that revenue for little benefit.
Simply put, if the aim of the executive club tiers is to extract additional spend / profit out of each customer, I feel like this would be a step backwards for the category of passenger like me.
Interested to see what transpires.
From a personal perspective, I realised I could probably hit 5k this year as a one-off, and 3k per year going forward if I make an effort. I would be surprised if BA wasn't making money out of the incremental 3.5k / 1.5k TPs I was aiming for in excess of the 1.5k requirement for Gold (whether this sort of TP-chasing is rational has been done to death!). Nearly all of my TPs are earned on routes where BA sees at least a share of the money.
If they raised the annual requirement to 5k, I wouldn't bother aiming for anything over Gold, so they'd see less money from me. If this was justified by increasing the benefits (which in theory could make me less profitable), I could understand it. If not, it would seem like they've lost that revenue for little benefit.
Simply put, if the aim of the executive club tiers is to extract additional spend / profit out of each customer, I feel like this would be a step backwards for the category of passenger like me.
Interested to see what transpires.
Feb 24, 2018, 3:25 am
#28
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,428
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Feb 24, 2018, 3:26 am
#29
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,893
If they just increase the number of eligible BA flights, no issue for me and I'm amazed it's currently only 4. Takes me 2 weeks to fulfil that!
Feb 24, 2018, 3:37 am
#30
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
My last three years were 3,600, 4,200 and probably now 4,800 TP by June... and still gold!
Would be very disappointed indeed to miss GGL with only a quarter of my TPs coming from QR (and very little from anywhere else than BA!)
Strategically though, GGL doesn't seem to do enough for the very small number of super-loyal, super-regular flyers - and many of those GGL, non-CCR members will be grandfathered in and fly less than an increasingly large number of golds.
Would be very disappointed indeed to miss GGL with only a quarter of my TPs coming from QR (and very little from anywhere else than BA!)
Strategically though, GGL doesn't seem to do enough for the very small number of super-loyal, super-regular flyers - and many of those GGL, non-CCR members will be grandfathered in and fly less than an increasingly large number of golds.