A rare First flight & far from impressed......
Feb 17, 2018, 7:51 am
#136
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If the price and timings suit me I'll fly with any airline. One advantage of not being caught up in the status game I suppose.
Feb 17, 2018, 7:53 am
#137
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How many meals does LH F load? I'm a mere Star Gold and I've always received my first choice on LH. Paid F, award F, doesn't matter. And you get all three appetizers if you want.
What's with the BA rationing? It can be a good menu; load extra! How much is it, $20 each?
Flying BA F in June and was looking forward to being back on board, but this thread is depressing...
What's with the BA rationing? It can be a good menu; load extra! How much is it, $20 each?
Flying BA F in June and was looking forward to being back on board, but this thread is depressing...On the last TG F flight we did, I was about the only one eating the caviar, and they just kept filling up my plate with it.
Although to be fair to BA, on our last F I was offered seconds of the soup.
Feb 17, 2018, 8:29 am
#138
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Flying BA F to HKG next week and have no excitement at all. Used up OB points (that is another thread!!) that were expiring so happy enough (not!) to just be paying high taxes etc.
CW back from PEK using avios so again my expectations are low but I am not bothered as BA are lower than average.
I have not paid for a LH BA flight in some 5 years now. So lesson is learned there but I do fly LH a bit each year using avios.
Slightly OT but the usual poster(s) are here in support of BA, invariably GGL/CCR. I completely understand why they would support BA, my local pub is a bit crap, I know this but it is my local afterall.
CW back from PEK using avios so again my expectations are low but I am not bothered as BA are lower than average.
I have not paid for a LH BA flight in some 5 years now. So lesson is learned there but I do fly LH a bit each year using avios.
Slightly OT but the usual poster(s) are here in support of BA, invariably GGL/CCR. I completely understand why they would support BA, my local pub is a bit crap, I know this but it is my local afterall.
Feb 17, 2018, 8:35 am
#139
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Ah, stevie, economical flying! Sadly we pay money for most of our BA ‘experiences’, apart from the 241 trip. We always look forward to l/h AA, and just accept the ‘whatever’ when doing it with BA.
However, as a CW/Business only traveller, I’d better wind my neck in
However, as a CW/Business only traveller, I’d better wind my neck in
Feb 17, 2018, 10:06 am
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Reading this reminds me of the irony from "A Very British Airline" where this employee proudly tells us that there was a tiny nick i the trim on an F seat, but when people actually get to the seat it is worn, dirty and still has trash laying around. How does BA get away with at least the cleaning part (maintenance can be explained sometimes)?
Feb 17, 2018, 10:47 am
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On the last LH F flight I took, I had all 3 starters, they offered multiple mains and I had at least 2 desserts.
On the last TG F flight we did, I was about the only one eating the caviar, and they just kept filling up my plate with it.
Although to be fair to BA, on our last F I was offered seconds of the soup.
Feb 17, 2018, 12:05 pm
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Reports of positive experiences do not make up for a negative one!
The positive experience of First should be the default not some threadworthy declaration of BA's commitment to excellence.
A negative one can not be explained away because the OP was the wrong personality type to deal with a dirty seat, didn't talk to the crew, doesn't travel enough or, my fave, had unrealistic expectations because he read too many trip reports.
And, really, if cheap fares or one-off First travellers somehow really do deserve cheap treatment should this not be put on the website somewhere? I mean, they really are such low blows.
Good on the OP for reporting.
The positive experience of First should be the default not some threadworthy declaration of BA's commitment to excellence.
A negative one can not be explained away because the OP was the wrong personality type to deal with a dirty seat, didn't talk to the crew, doesn't travel enough or, my fave, had unrealistic expectations because he read too many trip reports.
And, really, if cheap fares or one-off First travellers somehow really do deserve cheap treatment should this not be put on the website somewhere? I mean, they really are such low blows.
Good on the OP for reporting.
Feb 17, 2018, 12:20 pm
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I would also argue there is a bit of rose tinted spectacles/Stockholm syndrome for CCR/GGL members, who invariably have much more experience on BA versus other carriers, so this is their 'norm', therefore accepted as 'good'. Those who travel on a variety of carriers know that there is better out there.
The fact is that Flyertalk is an echo chamber and kind of eats itself.
Feb 17, 2018, 12:31 pm
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It's rarely the frequent F travellers who are moaning though. It's those who travel F rarely, think they should be treated like royalty and have their noses put out when they aren't.
Feb 17, 2018, 12:46 pm
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What I have read is reports of broken equipment, inedequate cleaning, poor crew and failed ‘fine dining’. Are they are from ‘fairly frequent F’, as opposed to CW interlopers like me (on one sad occasion) or the once-in-a-lifetime community?
Feb 17, 2018, 12:51 pm
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Feb 17, 2018, 12:51 pm
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I resent being told that my good experiences are as a result of wearing rose tinted glasses or having Stockholm syndrome.
It seems the only accepted view on FT is negative.
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Feb 17, 2018, 1:00 pm
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QUOTE=Sealink;29428060]I'm a frequent flyer.[/QUOTE]
“Frequent” is an interesting adjective, with flexible definition
And your point is ..... ?
(aplogies, having connection issues)
Your views are yours, sealink, and respected as such. I do not wish to join this assumed pro/anti BA chorus. I thus say what I see, and experience, and comment on others’ encounters from a hopefully neutral perspective.
“Frequent” is an interesting adjective, with flexible definition
And your point is ..... ?
(aplogies, having connection issues)
Your views are yours, sealink, and respected as such. I do not wish to join this assumed pro/anti BA chorus. I thus say what I see, and experience, and comment on others’ encounters from a hopefully neutral perspective.