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Would Durban be viable? [starts 29th Oct 2018, 3 x weekly, 787-8]

Would Durban be viable? [starts 29th Oct 2018, 3 x weekly, 787-8]

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Old Feb 15, 18, 6:27 am
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That’s another great way to use a 2-4-1, however would much rather go via JNB.
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Old Feb 15, 18, 6:57 am
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South Africa also has high unemployment so probably not so much people can afford airtravel or can consider flying leisure to other African countries.
When BA would fly LHR-DUR the thing could look a whole lot different...could also be a seasonal service for a few month a year/special events etc.
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Old Feb 15, 18, 8:05 pm
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You must not be on the JNB flights that I'm on then - always rammed!
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Old Feb 16, 18, 2:53 am
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Well considering BA flies not one but two flights to JNB. Mind you on A380s. Two A380s
I have always wondered why two A380s are needed, because the planes are not that full. I'm assuming cargo.
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Then if the flight is not until next month how do you know that the flights will be "not that full" as you put it?
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Old Feb 16, 18, 3:12 am
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Interestingly I was just looking at next Tuesday's JNB-LHRs for someone, looks pretty health to me:

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Departing JNB on 19/02/18 0:00 for LHR
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BA 56 0 JNB LHR 388 Daily F0 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W8 E2 T0 Y8 B2 H2 K2 M2 L2 V2 S2 N2 Q0 O0 G0
19/02/18 20:15 20/02/18 5:25
BA 54 0 JNB LHR 388 Daily F1 A0 J4 C1 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
19/02/18 21:50 20/02/18 7:15
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Old Feb 16, 18, 3:35 am
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With SAA soon to reduce down to one JNB rotation from LHR pulling 222 Daily seats (81,030 pa) from the available non stop capacity, I suspect any future DUR service would be non stop with 787 rather than a tag on to JNB as before.
Perhaps BA have leased SAA’s vacant slot. This would free up seats to JNB to mop up some of the lost capacity.
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Old Feb 16, 18, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by ROUTE View Post
With SAA soon to reduce down to one JNB rotation from LHR pulling 222 Daily seats (81,030 pa) from the available non stop capacity, I suspect any future DUR service would be non stop with 787 rather than a tag on to JNB as before.
Perhaps BA have leased SAA’s vacant slot. This would free up seats to JNB to mop up some of the lost capacity.
Still can't see too much LHR DUR traffic is BA can't make LHR Chengdu work.
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Old Feb 16, 18, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by ROUTE View Post
With SAA soon to reduce down to one JNB rotation from LHR pulling 222 Daily seats (81,030 pa) from the available non stop capacity, I suspect any future DUR service would be non stop with 787 rather than a tag on to JNB as before.
Perhaps BA have leased SAA’s vacant slot. This would free up seats to JNB to mop up some of the lost capacity.
And this follows them having previously pulled out of the LHR-CPT market.
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Old Feb 16, 18, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by ROUTE View Post
Perhaps BA have leased SAA’s vacant slot. This would free up seats to JNB to mop up some of the lost capacity.


They have, for 5 years, though it doesn't have to be used to JNB, or even South Africa.
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Old Feb 16, 18, 8:22 am
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Maybe yesterday's events might change things but I imagine the margins on the routes to SA may be affected by South Africa's descent to junk status.

Also years ago JNB was a key hub for getting around Africa but really that isn't the case any more, most places (including Durban) are easily accessible via other hubs.

Direct flights to Durban? I can't see it personally. Relatively little business traffic and EK are well entrenched.
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Old Feb 16, 18, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Airprox View Post
Then if the flight is not until next month how do you know that the flights will be "not that full" as you put it?
Past experience, I suppose. I am usually in Club or F. I almost never see the rear cabins, except when being walked to the front door when the plane lands in Joburg. I'm thinking of the 747.
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Old Feb 17, 18, 12:14 pm
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I hear that a non stop B787 London - Durban is currently being considered.
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Old Feb 17, 18, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by ROUTE View Post
With SAA soon to reduce down to one JNB rotation from LHR pulling 222 Daily seats (81,030 pa) from the available non stop capacity, I suspect any future DUR service would be non stop with 787 rather than a tag on to JNB as before.
Perhaps BA have leased SAA’s vacant slot. This would free up seats to JNB to mop up some of the lost capacity.





Is SAA really that bad? I've done the shorthaul business 2-3 config on the A319, which I think is kind of funny for a business class ( albeit shortfall(haul) product). I'm usually sitting in the aisle, and its always interesting to see the looks on people who clearly paid for a business seat to see that they got the middle seat. Never done the longhaul

Seems that BA is eating SAA's lunch with the double daily A380s to Joburg, and both flights leave roughly within 2-3 hours of each other
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Old Feb 17, 18, 3:06 pm
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A few years back comair we’re supposed to be getting hold of a 767 to operate DUR-LGW but that all went very quiet.


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Old May 8, 18, 1:19 am
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BA LHR-DUR confirmed! Starting October 29th, three times per week, on a B787-8. Flight times are currently scheduled as:
  • LHR-DUR: 1545 departure, 0535 arrival (Mon/Thurs/Sat)
  • DUR-LHR: 0735 departure, 1745 arrival (Tues/Fri/Sun)
More information here: https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...urban-service/
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