Club Europe worth it?? LHR CPH
Jan 30, 2018, 4:12 am
#31
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The question is not so much what it cost OP to earn the miles, but what he/she could use them for instead (opportunity cost). For example it may be possible to get much greater value from them on an AA domestic route OP flies. Really depends on OP's plans.
As suggested above, it's definitely worth checking Norwegian and easyJet cash fares from LGW. That is assuming OP will be coming from London, rather than already at LHR.
As suggested above, it's definitely worth checking Norwegian and easyJet cash fares from LGW. That is assuming OP will be coming from London, rather than already at LHR.
and and why do you think he wants to use a low cost airline and pay for everything which in the end will be the same price as a legacy carrier?
Jan 30, 2018, 4:34 am
#32
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Jan 30, 2018, 4:40 am
#33
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I stand corrected. The fact does however remain that BA’s short-haul business product offers less legroom than many other carriers’ economy product. The space differentiation on BA aircraft is simply the free middle seat. The highest legroom seats are the exit rows in Economy, which can be purchased by any passengers, regardless of status. It does not show that BA is serious about its own “premium” cabin.
Jan 30, 2018, 4:45 am
#34
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I stand corrected. The fact does however remain that BA’s short-haul business product offers less legroom than many other carriers’ economy product. The space differentiation on BA aircraft is simply the free middle seat. The highest legroom seats are the exit rows in Economy, which can be purchased by any passengers, regardless of status. It does not show that BA is serious about its own “premium” cabin.
Jan 30, 2018, 4:54 am
#35
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Yes, admittedly true, but I was under the impression the OP was new here. And to be fair, none of us have taken the better and more personal service into account either. That is for me the real differentiator. But would that be worth 10,000 extra AA miles to me when 62,500 of them get me from Europe to SYD in J? No.
Jan 30, 2018, 5:51 am
#36
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And again this is in the context of asking "is this is a good use of miles, versus something else I could use the miles for?" Clearly if OP has unlimited miles then the award in J will be best value. However I doubt OP has unlimited miles.
Jan 30, 2018, 5:59 am
#37
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Jan 30, 2018, 6:57 am
#38
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It's not just 12,500 miles or 22,500 miles. There's also the $46 in taxes and BA YQ scam charges.
Why waste your miles? Club Euro-fraud is a garbage product anyway.
You can fly Norwegian nonstop for $50 including taxes and YQ. Pay a little to check a bag or learn to travel with carryons.
Why waste your miles? Club Euro-fraud is a garbage product anyway.
You can fly Norwegian nonstop for $50 including taxes and YQ. Pay a little to check a bag or learn to travel with carryons.
Norwegian are excellent value in the Nordics, and you can pay 11EUR to get fast track one way. Fast Track is a must at CPH during the rush.
In your shoes, I would look a this option instead and use your miles better elsewhere.
I wouldn't call Club Europe fraud, depends on the sector which some are utter pants value for money. For short flights such as CPH which often comes in under 1.5h, the extra cost is not worth it.
On my frequent route ARN-LHR CE is a good deal usually, especially when seated in row 1.
Jan 30, 2018, 7:23 am
#40
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SFO777 makes valid points, albeit somewhat loaded with hyperbole (must be his intense dislike for BA)
I wouldn't call Club Europe fraud, depends on the sector which some are utter pants value for money. For short flights such as CPH which often comes in under 1.5h, the extra cost is not worth it.
On my frequent route ARN-LHR CE is a good deal usually, especially when seated in row 1.
I wouldn't call Club Europe fraud, depends on the sector which some are utter pants value for money. For short flights such as CPH which often comes in under 1.5h, the extra cost is not worth it.
On my frequent route ARN-LHR CE is a good deal usually, especially when seated in row 1.
I am really trying to like BA since believe it or not... I'm running for BA Gold next month, thanks to last year's CAI-HNL fare "sale".
I agree that short haul CE is survivable, especially in the bulkhead. Unfortunately, we were stuck in non-bulkhead 30" pitch CE for 4+ hours a couple of weeks ago.
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Jan 30, 2018, 7:29 am
#41
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I wouldn't call Club Europe fraud, depends on the sector which some are utter pants value for money. For short flights such as CPH which often comes in under 1.5h, the extra cost is not worth it.
On my frequent route ARN-LHR CE is a good deal usually, especially when seated in row 1.
On my frequent route ARN-LHR CE is a good deal usually, especially when seated in row 1.
Jan 30, 2018, 11:28 am
#42
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LOL on the hyperbole part.
I am really trying to like BA since believe it or not... I'm running for BA Gold next month, thanks to last year's CAI-HNL fare "sale".
I agree that short haul CE is survivable, especially in the bulkhead. Unfortunately, we were stuck in non-bulkhead 30" pitch CE for 4+ hours a couple of weeks ago.
* it took me about 18 months to figure this out
Jan 30, 2018, 1:14 pm
#43
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Setting aside any logistical, time and cost implications of diverting the OP to LGW to take the Norwegian flight, a true pedant would also point out that, for such a short sector, the time spent at the airport represents a fair proportion of the travel experience.
Gatwick South, no lounge, in July ? Ugh.
Gatwick South, no lounge, in July ? Ugh.
Jan 30, 2018, 1:28 pm
#44
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Setting aside any logistical, time and cost implications of diverting the OP to LGW to take the Norwegian flight, a true pedant would also point out that, for such a short sector, the time spent at the airport represents a fair proportion of the travel experience.
Gatwick South, no lounge, in July ? Ugh.
Gatwick South, no lounge, in July ? Ugh.
As for time and logistics, as I alluded to above if OP is in central London then it's likely that LGW is just as easy if not easier than LHR, albeit the train there is more expensive than the Tube (not the HEX). As ever, all depends on the actual circumstances of the OP.
Last edited by Ldnn1; Jan 30, 2018 at 1:33 pm