Onboard etiquette: blocked seats
#166
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Immediately prior to the start of boarding, the crew place red-coloured head-rest covers onto the seats that are officially designated as blocked, thus pre-empting any debate as to whether a passenger can unilaterally re-seat themselves there? That would be no different to the tray table being lowered to indicate the middle seats in CE are not available for occupation, would it?
Also, I don’t think the crew knows what is blocked and what is genuinely empty? On a half empty flight, should they run around and stick red bags on 100s of seats?
#167
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It’s an interesting state of affairs when the passengers have more information about seat allocations than the crew though, isn’t it? So as has already been pointed out, those of us that know which seats are blocked up to the point of boarding can then sit in them while ‘defending’ the second seat that is printed on our boarding pass. Regardless of whether BA wants to hide the workings of TS, the reality is that the information is effectively publicly available and is already in the hands of many frequent flyers.
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It’s an interesting state of affairs when the passengers have more information about seat allocations than the crew though, isn’t it? So as has already been pointed out, those of us that know which seats are blocked up to the point of boarding can then sit in them while ‘defending’ the second seat that is printed on our boarding pass. Regardless of whether BA wants to hide the workings of TS, the reality is that the information is effectively publicly available and is already in the hands of many frequent flyers.
Personally I wouldn't want to prevent someone who for example, has been plonked in a middle seat at the back, from taking up an empty exit row seat if its available. Seems rather selfish and even spiteful to me. Then there are passengers who for example might have a tight connection and would benefit from being further forward, I'd prefer to help give someone else a better day. And hopefully one day I'll benefit similarly.
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Immediately prior to the start of boarding, the crew place red-coloured head-rest covers onto the seats that are officially designated as blocked, thus pre-empting any debate as to whether a passenger can unilaterally re-seat themselves there? That would be no different to the tray table being lowered to indicate the middle seats in CE are not available for occupation, would it?
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Just thought I would mention a follow up. Just flew LAX-LHR on UD of hi J 744 with partner (she and I are both GGL/CCR). Three empty seats on UD including one next to each of us (we both like windows in CW so had 64A and K) which had been blocked throughout (seats next to us blocked in row 1 of NCE-LHR a few days ago, again, we could not even pick the blocked seats ourselves) and a third one, an aisle as well, 61J.
After boarding, a crew member came up with a passenger who had clearly asked if she could be reseated in UD. SCCM was on stairway and asked by the crew member if it would be ok for her to offer the passenger the seat next to me. SCCM looked at her ipad and said "it's fine to move her but I have two Gold Guest list passengers in 64A and 64K so please put her in 61J instead". *
I did not have a chance to ask the SCCM if she knew the seats had been blocked (I remember CIHY mentioned that crew do not get that information) or had just assumed it based on status, but either way, the comment was clear and explicit. Just thought that this was an interesting data point (and her prioritising keeping the seats next to us empty was much appreciated, and spoilt us by enabling us to have dinner together whilst then returning to our windows for a more cocooned sleeping experience. I fully realise that the empty seat is not a guarantee, but this was much appreciated and golden ticket will follow.
* The passenger did not like 61J after all so went back down! (taking the spare blanket and headsets that were on 64B on the way but that is another matter! )
After boarding, a crew member came up with a passenger who had clearly asked if she could be reseated in UD. SCCM was on stairway and asked by the crew member if it would be ok for her to offer the passenger the seat next to me. SCCM looked at her ipad and said "it's fine to move her but I have two Gold Guest list passengers in 64A and 64K so please put her in 61J instead". *
I did not have a chance to ask the SCCM if she knew the seats had been blocked (I remember CIHY mentioned that crew do not get that information) or had just assumed it based on status, but either way, the comment was clear and explicit. Just thought that this was an interesting data point (and her prioritising keeping the seats next to us empty was much appreciated, and spoilt us by enabling us to have dinner together whilst then returning to our windows for a more cocooned sleeping experience. I fully realise that the empty seat is not a guarantee, but this was much appreciated and golden ticket will follow.
* The passenger did not like 61J after all so went back down! (taking the spare blanket and headsets that were on 64B on the way but that is another matter! )
Last edited by orbitmic; Feb 13, 2018 at 12:45 pm
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In any case, I already gave my arguments and don't plan to repeat them but merely wanted to provide a new factual data point which does not correspond to any of the ones reported thus far.
Last edited by orbitmic; Feb 13, 2018 at 12:28 pm