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#16
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Exactly my first thought when I read the OP
Though even on long haul, it's primarily to tell people which aisle to use to reach their seat (or identify F pax) rather than a security check.
Though even on long haul, it's primarily to tell people which aisle to use to reach their seat (or identify F pax) rather than a security check.
#18
Join Date: Aug 2012
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The boarding pass check on boarding is the one I understand most.
A concerned searching of pockets and a 'it's alright - I know where I'm going' would probably get you past.
It's the security checkpoint (given the TSA do their passport+bp check prior to entry) and the gate (same thing) that worry me.
Those guys must have been heads down and she just chose her moment to duck past.
A concerned searching of pockets and a 'it's alright - I know where I'm going' would probably get you past.
It's the security checkpoint (given the TSA do their passport+bp check prior to entry) and the gate (same thing) that worry me.
Those guys must have been heads down and she just chose her moment to duck past.
#19
Join Date: Aug 2013
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No, my reading of it is that she had no passport at all, simply lingered airside (possibly for hours) looking for a nice opportunity and just sneaked past the gate check entirely.
#21
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Or having any reasonable looking boarding pass maybe? If she went to the trouble of faking one rather than using a discarded one that might be an interesting twist re fraud over opportunistic adventure.
#22
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Was anyone on this flight who could remember back?
#23
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PAX counting is no longer?
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#26
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Having seen the videos from the beginning she knew exactly what she was doing. To me there's ZERO mental health issues at play. This is a game/challenge to her and she's been very good at winning.
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#28
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She has succeeded at stowing away without a ticket on US domestic services up to 10 or 11 times in the past decade, by her own admission. During prior arrests she has calmly blamed TSA and airline personnel for operating in such a way as to enable her. She does not seem to me to be mentally off -- just wily and persistent.
#29
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Unfortunately not, she won't get a job with the TSA. She still has a criminal background. She got too many problems. She went to my PHX airports last 4 years ago and they never told news media about her sentenced while she in Maricopa County Jail.
I suppose they might feel somewhat vindicated since Mrs Hartman managed to foil everyone at ORD. It must have taken some cunning to get past BA's gate agents at ORD as boarding passes are cross checked with passports.
The article mentions she couldn’t produce a passport when she arrived at Heathrow but she must have had one (fake or otherwise) when she boarded, surely
The article mentions she couldn’t produce a passport when she arrived at Heathrow but she must have had one (fake or otherwise) when she boarded, surely
#30
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So what has happened to the three strikes and you’re out policy in the USA? Surely she should have been locked up for good by now.