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Old Jan 14, 2018, 4:55 am
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Poor Tony Benn

Is this a sleight on Tony Benn's left wing credentials?

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Old Jan 14, 2018, 5:00 am
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The Tony Benn (Aviation Minister) that kept the Concorde programme going when the rest of the government wanted to scrap it?
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 5:03 am
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I think your reading too much into this.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 5:42 am
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I don't read this as a slight on his political views, but as ironically honouring them. Those views meant that he wouldn't naturally be thought of as a Concorde passenger. A reader of the poster who didn't know the background but did know about his "left-wing credentials" might do a double-take, and the parenthetical phrase in the poster acknowledges that that was indeed his stance.

As DYKWIA reminds us, he had a valuable place in the Concorde story notwithstanding that, and it seemed quite fitting that he should have been on the last flight. That was quite a day.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 9:22 am
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He was on the same flight as Alexis Colby Carrington. Obviously, they were up to something.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 9:57 am
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I rather suspect that HAL won't get any complaints about this from Wedgie.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 12:30 pm
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Viscount Stansgate kept it going.

On the last flight, Joan Collins was sat next to Roy McNulty, the accountant then running the CAA. I bet she was excited by that.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
Viscount Stansgate kept it going.
What has Tony Benn's son got to do with it?

Tony Benn as aviation minister also insisted that some of the people who worked on the project - the engineers, draughtsmen, technicians etc actually got to fly on some of the first passenger test flights.

In the BBC documentary about Concorde (that gets a regular airing on BBC4 and on here) his efforts on keeping the project going were explained very well. He saw it as more that just a single plane but as part of the wider UK aerospace industry.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 1:44 pm
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Not forgetting he was also MP for South Gloucestershire and the home of UK Concorde development and production (Filton) was in this constituency. He was pro-Concorde for both the technology gain for the UK and the employment prospects for his own constituents. My late father-in-law was an aerospace journalist and was on some of the early Concorde test flights and Tony Benn was on a few of them. He always said he was a really charming and charismatic man.

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Old Jan 14, 2018, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
Viscount Stansgate kept it going.
He hated his peerage and the day the law changed in 1963 to allow him to do so, he disclaimed it .
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 9:40 pm
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Interesting Trio

David Frost probably Concordes Number 1 Flyer

Joan Collins maybe BA's Highest Celebrity Complainer

Tony Benn the Aviation Minister who kow-towed to The French and added the 'E'
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
Tony Benn the Aviation Minister who kow-towed to The French and added the 'E'
Linguistically, it was a great decision to compromise on this one. And it was consistent with all our other adoptions of spellings with French origins.
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 1:50 am
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Originally Posted by UncleDude

Tony Benn the Aviation Minister who kow-towed to The French and added the 'E'
He didn't add the 'E' he returned the 'E' that Harold Macmillan had removed in a fit of pique.
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
Tony Benn the Aviation Minister who kow-towed to The French and added the 'E'
If all that can be reproached to him is to not waste time and energy fighting that sort of absurd war (assuming the French even cared about the spelling which is doubtful) to focus on things that actually matter, it already says a lot about his ability to be pragmatic when it matters, which seems to have been exactly the case in the context of the Concorde programme to be honest.
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 5:14 am
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Tony Benn was born and brought up as Viscount Stansgate.
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