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Please use this thread to document experiences of the new Group Boarding process in airports. I think it's well known how the previous boarding system works, so just the new process please, so that other travellers can gauge its effectiveness.
For discussion, conjecture and speculation about the scheme, please use this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1878043-boarding-group-introduced-general-discussion.html
For discussion, conjecture and speculation about the scheme, please use this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1878043-boarding-group-introduced-general-discussion.html
Group Boarding 2018 - first hand experiences
#556
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 61
GLA to LGW, this morning. They announced that it would be group boarding. Gate 19, two lanes (1 to 3 and 4 to 5). Before they started the boarding one of the gate agents came to the passenger end of the lanes and opened the group 1 to 3 lane. She asked for people in group 1 and sent them along the lane, but boarding not started yet. Then they announced boarding for groups 1 to 3, at once but the group 1 were already at the front of the queue. Not sure if group 2 were sent down the lane after group 1. Boarding complete well before push back time.
#557
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Madrid
Programs: BA GfL
Posts: 157
MAD > LHR > ABZ, Sat 24th March
MAD > LHR. Boarding from T4S, gate A25, which faces the back of some duty-free shops, so space is already tight. On top of this a partially boarded IB flight at the adjacent door had just deplaned pax due to some issue and they had spilled over into the BA space. So the gate area was pretty crowded. About 40 minutes before departure a lady arrived with a trolley of signs and baggage sizers. She used to a paper plan to know where to place the Group signs on the tensa barriers.
Once this was done, everyone started to line up at what they thought were their boarding positions, although from observation quite a few didn't know anything about Groups. Just after this a BA gate agent came and changed all of the signs' positions, which then resulted in a couple of hundred people (it was a 767) re-arranging themselves! A few minutes later they announced Group 1, which I was in, so didn't see what happened after that.
LHR > ABZ. Was in the F Lounge and the info screens said A19, so just had to go downstairs. Got there early for a reason. I checked in online, had no checked luggage and was seated in an Emergency Exit. The last couple of times I was rejected by the auto-gates, as the agents need to do a physical check. Went to an agent who asked me to come back as he was just logging in. Sat down and saw the Groups forming. The signs said Group 1 to the right and Group 2 to the left of the same line. After just a few minutes there were already about 20 pax in the Group 1 & 2 line. Went back to another agent and explained that I needed to be cleared. She asked for my boarding pass and to stand on the yellow marks. A bit of typing and she handed me my boarding pass and said you're all OK. I said that I'd go to join the line. No, no need, she said, you're boarded, please join the other pre-boarders! Score, boarding Group 0?! Looked back and there were quite a few quizzical faces wondering why I got to join the pre-boarders! They started boarding just after that and off I went.
MAD > LHR. Boarding from T4S, gate A25, which faces the back of some duty-free shops, so space is already tight. On top of this a partially boarded IB flight at the adjacent door had just deplaned pax due to some issue and they had spilled over into the BA space. So the gate area was pretty crowded. About 40 minutes before departure a lady arrived with a trolley of signs and baggage sizers. She used to a paper plan to know where to place the Group signs on the tensa barriers.
Once this was done, everyone started to line up at what they thought were their boarding positions, although from observation quite a few didn't know anything about Groups. Just after this a BA gate agent came and changed all of the signs' positions, which then resulted in a couple of hundred people (it was a 767) re-arranging themselves! A few minutes later they announced Group 1, which I was in, so didn't see what happened after that.
LHR > ABZ. Was in the F Lounge and the info screens said A19, so just had to go downstairs. Got there early for a reason. I checked in online, had no checked luggage and was seated in an Emergency Exit. The last couple of times I was rejected by the auto-gates, as the agents need to do a physical check. Went to an agent who asked me to come back as he was just logging in. Sat down and saw the Groups forming. The signs said Group 1 to the right and Group 2 to the left of the same line. After just a few minutes there were already about 20 pax in the Group 1 & 2 line. Went back to another agent and explained that I needed to be cleared. She asked for my boarding pass and to stand on the yellow marks. A bit of typing and she handed me my boarding pass and said you're all OK. I said that I'd go to join the line. No, no need, she said, you're boarded, please join the other pre-boarders! Score, boarding Group 0?! Looked back and there were quite a few quizzical faces wondering why I got to join the pre-boarders! They started boarding just after that and off I went.
#558
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Surrey, UK
Programs: BA Gold, *A Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 654
Kuwait this morning.
An announcement was made for group 1 - first and business. As they had ripped the boarding passes as everyone entered the gate room, everyone was left with the stub - minus any group number. Slightly chaotic to say the least.
An announcement was made for group 1 - first and business. As they had ripped the boarding passes as everyone entered the gate room, everyone was left with the stub - minus any group number. Slightly chaotic to say the least.
#559
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lausanne Switzerland
Programs: BA Gold; Swiss Blue
Posts: 1,244
And I thought ZRH was always so organised... another swiss myth busted.
#560
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OW Emerald
Posts: 753
I used to think Swiss airports were good, but I am less and less impressed the more I travel. The only ground-related incident outside Switzerland I've had is a whisky bottle that was (somewhat improperly) packed in my luggage being smashed in BOS. So, while most of my travel is going to Switzerland... I've had long delays at immigration or baggage reclaim in both GVA and ZRH.
#561
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 3,227
BA270 LAS - LHR on March 19th had one queue for Group 1, one for Groups 2 - 3 and one for Groups 4 - 5. The usual pre-boarders were called first, then it was Group 1 so that worked well.
BA1334 LHR - NCL on 20th March was well handled too, with Group 1 being called first but passengers not realising they could use all of the electronic gates rather than just the one immediately in front of the queue. Boarding seemed to be pretty efficient but we then had a delay while a missing passenger's bags were offloaded and then there was a further delay due to what I understood to be some form of ground hold due to an emergency flight over LHR's airspace.
BA275 LHR - LAS on March 25th from gate 35 (T3) was certainly better organised than my last flight from there where it was a total zoo. Pre-boarders included a large number of cabin crew who just got in the way at the top of the airbridge while waiting for the rest of their party to show up. The cabin crew were apparently dead-heading to LAS but were clearly intent on partying and then tried to use their staff ID to use the "Aircrew" line at immigration, much to the annoyance of the CBP agents who insisted on the appropriate paperwork being provided before they would start processing them.
BA1334 LHR - NCL on 20th March was well handled too, with Group 1 being called first but passengers not realising they could use all of the electronic gates rather than just the one immediately in front of the queue. Boarding seemed to be pretty efficient but we then had a delay while a missing passenger's bags were offloaded and then there was a further delay due to what I understood to be some form of ground hold due to an emergency flight over LHR's airspace.
BA275 LHR - LAS on March 25th from gate 35 (T3) was certainly better organised than my last flight from there where it was a total zoo. Pre-boarders included a large number of cabin crew who just got in the way at the top of the airbridge while waiting for the rest of their party to show up. The cabin crew were apparently dead-heading to LAS but were clearly intent on partying and then tried to use their staff ID to use the "Aircrew" line at immigration, much to the annoyance of the CBP agents who insisted on the appropriate paperwork being provided before they would start processing them.
#564
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
The groups were identified in the other thread: Boarding by group to be introduced [general discussion] but the new forum formatting means that it might be easier to re-post the lists in a slightly different format:-
Code:
Group number Long haul customers Priority Group 1 First class Executive Club Gold Members oneworld Emerald members Priority Group 2 Business class Executive Club Silver Members oneworld Sapphire members Priority Group 3 Premium economy Executive Club Bronze Members oneworld Ruby members Groups 4 and 5 Economy
Code:
Group number Short haul customers Priority Group 1 Business class Executive Club Gold Members oneworld Emerald members Priority Group 2 Executive Club Silver Members oneworld Sapphire members Priority Group 3 Executive Club Bronze Members oneworld Ruby members Groups 4 and 5 Economy
#565
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: London - SW4
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 320
Definitely no problem being put in my place Last LH before group boarding was introduced was on AA in J and they put J ahead of (or with) OWE. Appreciated seeing the strict enforcement at LHR.
#566
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,945
J is in the same group as OWE on a 3 class aircraft, but in a group ahead in a 2-class international aircraft
#567
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 7
LHR to BCN, 20th march
Can't remember the gate number at T3, but there was plenty of space: Wife and I flying CE, no status, both had group 1, no prior experience boarding intra-europe BA in the last decade, we only fly back and forth to the states usually, direct. So, here is my newby experience.
- was Group Boarding properly used?
By gate agents, yes, by passengers...well I suppose. Just a huge scrum of people in the 1/2/3 area of 1/2/3 tix holders which made its almost impossible to get through when they called group 1. We made it thru right as she announced group 2. There was no signage or instructions that we saw. other that the Group 1/2/3 and 4/5 sign (hidden by people!).
- did passengers / staff understand what to do?
Kind of. There was a sep line for people wanting to check carry on into the hold...we didn't understand that at first (US domestic flyers here, where "gate checking" on lawn dar^h^h I mean CRJ700s and 145s mean dropping your bag at the end of the jetway), but then figured out what that was for despite there being no signage or announcements. As I made it to the agent she was announcing Group 2 and she asked me "Group 2?" I said "no, Group 1...this is an interesting system..." to which she commented "well there isn't enough space". I took a second to glance back past the scrum to the football pitch sized empty gate area beyond and shuffled on down the jetway...
- was it enforced?
Yes, seemingly so.
- was it an improvement on the previous system?
Can't comment, but as a paying CE passenger I found it to be slightly stressful to have to push thru the hoards of people.
Edit: I'm relating this experience to US domestic first travel, which is a little unfair as usually there are only *maybe* 2-10 first class and status boarders in the priority lane for US domestic on the 50 passenger jets that I'm normally on.
Edit 2: I just read the short haul boarding groups at the beginning of the wiki. Boy there must be a LOT of status holders out there....seemed like half the plane was in the 1/2/3 area...
Of course, I have no better solutions
- was Group Boarding properly used?
By gate agents, yes, by passengers...well I suppose. Just a huge scrum of people in the 1/2/3 area of 1/2/3 tix holders which made its almost impossible to get through when they called group 1. We made it thru right as she announced group 2. There was no signage or instructions that we saw. other that the Group 1/2/3 and 4/5 sign (hidden by people!).
- did passengers / staff understand what to do?
Kind of. There was a sep line for people wanting to check carry on into the hold...we didn't understand that at first (US domestic flyers here, where "gate checking" on lawn dar^h^h I mean CRJ700s and 145s mean dropping your bag at the end of the jetway), but then figured out what that was for despite there being no signage or announcements. As I made it to the agent she was announcing Group 2 and she asked me "Group 2?" I said "no, Group 1...this is an interesting system..." to which she commented "well there isn't enough space". I took a second to glance back past the scrum to the football pitch sized empty gate area beyond and shuffled on down the jetway...
- was it enforced?
Yes, seemingly so.
- was it an improvement on the previous system?
Can't comment, but as a paying CE passenger I found it to be slightly stressful to have to push thru the hoards of people.
Edit: I'm relating this experience to US domestic first travel, which is a little unfair as usually there are only *maybe* 2-10 first class and status boarders in the priority lane for US domestic on the 50 passenger jets that I'm normally on.
Edit 2: I just read the short haul boarding groups at the beginning of the wiki. Boy there must be a LOT of status holders out there....seemed like half the plane was in the 1/2/3 area...
Of course, I have no better solutions
Last edited by metoo1; Mar 27, 2018 at 6:58 am
#568
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: England
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 278
#569
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA GGLfL, WoH Lifetime Globalist, HH Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 711
NRT: two lanes (1) Groups 1, 2 & 3 and (2) Groups 4 & 5. Pax line-up, presumably, by group number. A few minutes before boarding starts, ground staff rotate the signs so that 1, 2 & 3 becomes group 1 only and 4 & 5 becomes group 2 only. Much muttering and raised eyebrows followed by shuffling between queues and some pax not in groups 1 & 2 trying to find a seat
LHR: A couple of days later waiting to board a European flight there were several well labelled lines. Pax queue appropriately. Group 1 called for boarding, those pax moved forward to have boarding cards scanned. These were met with a frosty remark ‘Group 1 only, that’s those people over there’ accompanied by an arm gesture indicating those queueing in Groups 4 & 5. No one dare move. One said ‘OK, I’ll go and stand with them’. Gate agent then went and checked the labels and apologised that she’d got the order of lanes mixed up.
It’s not rocket science, is it?
Doc Copper
LHR: A couple of days later waiting to board a European flight there were several well labelled lines. Pax queue appropriately. Group 1 called for boarding, those pax moved forward to have boarding cards scanned. These were met with a frosty remark ‘Group 1 only, that’s those people over there’ accompanied by an arm gesture indicating those queueing in Groups 4 & 5. No one dare move. One said ‘OK, I’ll go and stand with them’. Gate agent then went and checked the labels and apologised that she’d got the order of lanes mixed up.
It’s not rocket science, is it?
Doc Copper
#570
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 561
BA67 LHR to PHL from gate B48.
Queues with tensa barriers for Groups 1, 2-3 and 4-5. Both the Group 1 and 2-3 lines were policed with a staffer checking boarding passes. At least one person was directed to another line, and I assisted the 'gentlemen' who tried to join the middle of the line a couple of places ahead of me to the back
A very well done boarding process, with proactive staff and enforcement of queues.
Off-topic but what is the etiquette with slow walkers for a long gate such as B48? I didn't overtake the couple in front of me, despite a wayward snail outpacing us quite handily.
Queues with tensa barriers for Groups 1, 2-3 and 4-5. Both the Group 1 and 2-3 lines were policed with a staffer checking boarding passes. At least one person was directed to another line, and I assisted the 'gentlemen' who tried to join the middle of the line a couple of places ahead of me to the back
A very well done boarding process, with proactive staff and enforcement of queues.
Off-topic but what is the etiquette with slow walkers for a long gate such as B48? I didn't overtake the couple in front of me, despite a wayward snail outpacing us quite handily.