Nut Allergy Warning and then Serving
#46
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Glasgow
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Probably, but I asked the question without knowing that a sufferer will realise they are going into shock. I assumed, wrongly, that it may be similar to diabetes where a person can have a hypo without realising that it's happening.
#47
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The North
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Even if they do, it's not a pleasant experience to have to use it. I imagine it would be particularly galling if it was necessitated not by a cross-contaminated surface (bad luck, as precautions have been taken to try to minimise the risk), but is because someone else was determined to eat their peanuts in the next seat!
So, if a member of the crew requested that I didn't eat a nut snack because of an allergy sufferer was also, I would accede to that request. It's called being a considerate person: the risk/discomfort to me is minimal compared to the risk of anaphylaxis to the other person. If I persisted in eating a food that I'd been warned someone else was allergic to, and it caused a medical emergency and subsequent diversion and inconvenience, I would also feel like a right plonker…
#48
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I DO know when I'm about to have a reaction but I have known a few severe peanut allergy children who either don't know or haven't yet developed an awareness of impending reaction. There is no time for discussion, politeness, so on. They need an injection or emergency treatment immediately. Often both. I believe being near (peanut dust carries) or eating a peanut can each trigger a reaction in the most sensitive. According to the article quoted above, though, most folks don't inform the staff and just self treat.
#49
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I have severe asthmatic reactions to cats (no contact necessary). I carry an epi-pen and several masks and sit as far away as possible, which I usually work out with the owner. If there is a cat on board I will usually wear a mask the whole flight, no matter where I sit. All my emergency room visits have been related to cats...
I DO know when I'm about to have a reaction but I have known a few severe peanut allergy children who either don't know or haven't yet developed an awareness of impending reaction. There is no time for discussion, politeness, so on. They need an injection or emergency treatment immediately. Often both. I believe being near (peanut dust carries) or eating a peanut can each trigger a reaction in the most sensitive. According to the article quoted above, though, most folks don't inform the staff and just self treat.
I DO know when I'm about to have a reaction but I have known a few severe peanut allergy children who either don't know or haven't yet developed an awareness of impending reaction. There is no time for discussion, politeness, so on. They need an injection or emergency treatment immediately. Often both. I believe being near (peanut dust carries) or eating a peanut can each trigger a reaction in the most sensitive. According to the article quoted above, though, most folks don't inform the staff and just self treat.
#51
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As a diabetic I travel with backup to deal with the various situations I can be confronted with. Irrespective of insulin and pens, the situation that caught me out once, was being taken hostage on board a plane during irrops (it wasn't BA) and having to sit out several hours on the ground without any service. As it was supposed to be a short-haul flight, I really hadn't taken much with me and after a couple of hours, ended up with mild hypoglycaemia. I did have sugar on me, but that really is a short-term solution and once you've taken that, you need something to back it up (slow carbs, even simply bread).
Since that incident, I now always travel with cereal bars, they contain sugars and slow carbs and have a long shelf life, so are convenient, but they pretty much all contain nuts. With all respect to those with nut allergies, I will eat my cereal bars if I believe there is medical need for me to do so, even if there has been an announcement to the contrary.
Since that incident, I now always travel with cereal bars, they contain sugars and slow carbs and have a long shelf life, so are convenient, but they pretty much all contain nuts. With all respect to those with nut allergies, I will eat my cereal bars if I believe there is medical need for me to do so, even if there has been an announcement to the contrary.
#52
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Thank you for the welcome. I have been an avid follower of this forum for a few years now but have not had the courage to contribute. The advice on here has been invaluable in planning and enjoying many a trip in Club comfort!
#53
Join Date: Apr 2015
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That has never been an issue with them
(Sorry for late reply, been away )
#54
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#55
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While I do think fellow passengers should try and be sympathetic if not empathetic and forego the nut snacks, they can't really be asked to shoulder the entire responsibility either. As madfish mentioned in post #4 , if something on a tray at one point had nuts in it, then it would probably be prudent to consider the entire meal contaminated, but you couldn't not serve anyone anything... and if it weren't a short three hour flight, but an ultra-longhaul... then what?
Of course, I'm not suggesting that the person suffering from the severe allergy is to blame. But if s/he were so severely sensitive that any inhalation or skin contact with the most minuscule particle would trigger an allergic reaction, then at some point, you do have to question the sensibility of travelling on a commercial aircraft. Not only is it impractical to fully clean the aircraft (all nooks and crannies, tear out the carpet, flush the air conditioning system, etc.), but it's impossible to ensure that every other passenger will definitely comply with the "no nuts" rule. Yes, it is sad that a person suffering from a medical issue cannot do everything that a person not suffering from the issue can, but sometimes, as unfortunate and unfair as it may be, that is life.
Of course, I'm not suggesting that the person suffering from the severe allergy is to blame. But if s/he were so severely sensitive that any inhalation or skin contact with the most minuscule particle would trigger an allergic reaction, then at some point, you do have to question the sensibility of travelling on a commercial aircraft. Not only is it impractical to fully clean the aircraft (all nooks and crannies, tear out the carpet, flush the air conditioning system, etc.), but it's impossible to ensure that every other passenger will definitely comply with the "no nuts" rule. Yes, it is sad that a person suffering from a medical issue cannot do everything that a person not suffering from the issue can, but sometimes, as unfortunate and unfair as it may be, that is life.
#56
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While I do think fellow passengers should try and be sympathetic if not empathetic and forego the nut snacks, they can't really be asked to shoulder the entire responsibility either. As madfish mentioned in post #4 , if something on a tray at one point had nuts in it, then it would probably be prudent to consider the entire meal contaminated, but you couldn't not serve anyone anything... and if it weren't a short three hour flight, but an ultra-longhaul... then what?
Of course, I'm not suggesting that the person suffering from the severe allergy is to blame. But if s/he were so severely sensitive that any inhalation or skin contact with the most minuscule particle would trigger an allergic reaction, then at some point, you do have to question the sensibility of travelling on a commercial aircraft. Not only is it impractical to fully clean the aircraft (all nooks and crannies, tear out the carpet, flush the air conditioning system, etc.), but it's impossible to that every other passenger will definitely comply with the "no nuts" rule. Yes, it is sad that a person suffering from a medical issue cannot do everything that a person not suffering from the issue can, but sometimes, as unfortunate and unfair as it may be, that is life.
Of course, I'm not suggesting that the person suffering from the severe allergy is to blame. But if s/he were so severely sensitive that any inhalation or skin contact with the most minuscule particle would trigger an allergic reaction, then at some point, you do have to question the sensibility of travelling on a commercial aircraft. Not only is it impractical to fully clean the aircraft (all nooks and crannies, tear out the carpet, flush the air conditioning system, etc.), but it's impossible to that every other passenger will definitely comply with the "no nuts" rule. Yes, it is sad that a person suffering from a medical issue cannot do everything that a person not suffering from the issue can, but sometimes, as unfortunate and unfair as it may be, that is life.
II don't see any need for anything as extreme as not flying. We all accept the risk of a plane crashing everytime we board a plane, and statistically that seems rather a bigger threat than the allergy. So at some point you have to question the sensibility of your own choice to travel on a commercial aircraft.
#57
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Or, has happens, they could weigh up the risk and make their own decision over whether the benefits outweigh the risk. They do what they can to manage it, reasonable measures are taken to make the environment not threatening without disrupting other passengers and no-one has to forego their trip.
II don't see any need for anything as extreme as not flying. We all accept the risk of a plane crashing everytime we board a plane, and statistically that seems rather a bigger threat than the allergy. So at some point you have to question the sensibility of your own choice to travel on a commercial aircraft.
II don't see any need for anything as extreme as not flying. We all accept the risk of a plane crashing everytime we board a plane, and statistically that seems rather a bigger threat than the allergy. So at some point you have to question the sensibility of your own choice to travel on a commercial aircraft.
#58
Join Date: Nov 2012
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As a diabetic I travel with backup to deal with the various situations I can be confronted with. Irrespective of insulin and pens, the situation that caught me out once, was being taken hostage on board a plane during irrops (it wasn't BA) and having to sit out several hours on the ground without any service. As it was supposed to be a short-haul flight, I really hadn't taken much with me and after a couple of hours, ended up with mild hypoglycaemia. I did have sugar on me, but that really is a short-term solution and once you've taken that, you need something to back it up (slow carbs, even simply bread).
Since that incident, I now always travel with cereal bars, they contain sugars and slow carbs and have a long shelf life, so are convenient, but they pretty much all contain nuts. With all respect to those with nut allergies, I will eat my cereal bars if I believe there is medical need for me to do so, even if there has been an announcement to the contrary.
Since that incident, I now always travel with cereal bars, they contain sugars and slow carbs and have a long shelf life, so are convenient, but they pretty much all contain nuts. With all respect to those with nut allergies, I will eat my cereal bars if I believe there is medical need for me to do so, even if there has been an announcement to the contrary.
#59
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It's ok. None of those being inconsiderate to the needs of others will mind when their flight gets emergency diverted en route because they decided to eat nuts regardless. No? I thought not.
#60
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