BA207 20th Dec - not sure they cleaned it
Jan 18, 2018, 8:04 am
#31
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 131
Good to see this was resolved OP. Looks like a simple case of prioritising what is more important at the time. Get the flight in the air towards MIA without a proper clean or have people sitting around even longer at the gate getting frustrated. Looks like you made up some time in the air too.
Jan 18, 2018, 2:53 pm
#32
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 366
Tricky Dicky and I were on pally terms!
Onboard found the Maintenance guys all hanging out watching movies in Upper class seats and sipping coffee.
They quickly scurried away when my camera started clicking for some reason?
It was a geat treat to explore the aircraft for those few hours without all those guys "working".
Feb 13, 2018, 6:07 am
#33
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: coastal Croatia
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Can someone explain why maintenance is a highly restricted and secure area? In other words, shoudln't that apply to the whole airport? If cleaners have gone through security just like passengers, I don't see why they can't be in the maintenance hangar towards the end of the time when something is being fixed? I may be wrong, but I don't think this type of separation occurs in the U.S. (in other words, I would think that planes are cleaned before they are put back into service--where I do not know but it wouldn't be unreasonable to do that in the hangar).
Feb 13, 2018, 6:18 am
#34
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On one of our AA excursions, we had an aircraft go u/s and the replacement came from a hangar at another airport (according to some tracking). The first thing that happened when it docked at the gate was a swarm of cleaners going on board.
So cleaning during maintenace/hangar time may not be universal.
So cleaning during maintenace/hangar time may not be universal.
Feb 13, 2018, 8:55 am
#35
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Milton Keynes
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Admittedly I am going back to the 70's when I was a student with a Summer job cleaning for Court Line (remember them?!) at Luton.
Most of the work was on turn arounds but we also performed interior 'deep cleans' in the hangar during the aircraft's maintenance schedule.
We had a spray for the linings and the sight of nicotine trickling down the sides is not one I remember fondly!
It would certainly have removed those stains in the photos.
Most of the work was on turn arounds but we also performed interior 'deep cleans' in the hangar during the aircraft's maintenance schedule.
We had a spray for the linings and the sight of nicotine trickling down the sides is not one I remember fondly!
It would certainly have removed those stains in the photos.
Feb 13, 2018, 11:53 am
#37
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Good question! The problem is the ‘seen to be’ bit ... are we more vocal on the BA Forum?
I shall scrutinise my AA environment in June (TATL and TCon in J) and see what I can find to compliain about!!
I shall scrutinise my AA environment in June (TATL and TCon in J) and see what I can find to compliain about!!
Feb 13, 2018, 1:28 pm
#38
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I imagine because maintenance areas need to be tightly controlled for both safety and security reasons - and the cost of putting a trained, cleared subset of cleaners into maintenance bays just doesn’t make any sense when the work can be done in a dedicated area and another plane put into the maintenance hanger - which is called Dynamic Resource Allocation.
Feb 15, 2018, 10:31 am
#39
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Still don't get what you are going on about.
The aircraft was in the hangar for 3 days as it was undergoing maintenance. There are no cleaners in the maintenance area so it could not be cleaned there.
It was obviously late coming back from maintenance as you told us that - perhaps there was an issue that had to be fixed before it could be signed off to fly.
What would you have preferred - a longer delay so that a deep clean could have been done while you all sat at the gate waiting?
The aircraft was in the hangar for 3 days as it was undergoing maintenance. There are no cleaners in the maintenance area so it could not be cleaned there.
It was obviously late coming back from maintenance as you told us that - perhaps there was an issue that had to be fixed before it could be signed off to fly.
What would you have preferred - a longer delay so that a deep clean could have been done while you all sat at the gate waiting?
Feb 15, 2018, 3:34 pm
#43
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: London
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In short, it would entirely be possibly to do deep cleans during maintenance (when there is no cabin maintenance), but it’s generally the basic clean that goes on. I remember fondly watching the cleaners come on, clean a bit and then stretch out and watch a movie/have a snooze after I disabled the IFE...
Feb 15, 2018, 3:47 pm
#45
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