DYKWIA | 2018 edition
#16
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
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Yup, but if you want the window seat you can either pay for it or reserve it for free through status...I get too many of the "innocent" requests from BA ground staff to swap seats with other passengers who should simply have paid for them...most recently, being asked to switch out of 64K on the Upper Deck 747 (best seat in the house...) for a random aisle downstairs because "two passengers want to sit together". Sorry, not my problem and if they were that fussed they could have paid for the seats they wanted....
#17
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,991
Perhaps "I appreciate these passengers' desire to sit together, but am a little reluctant to move... is my new seat better than this one?"
#18
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,328
For those of us who don't know one aircraft from another, and haven't memorised seat maps, how do we subtly determine whether the seat we're being asked to move to is in First Class? I have two flights coming up in 64K and would like to be prepared.
Perhaps "I appreciate these passengers' desire to sit together, but am a little reluctant to move... is my new seat better than this one?"
Perhaps "I appreciate these passengers' desire to sit together, but am a little reluctant to move... is my new seat better than this one?"
That said, this particular situations has happened to me twice, out of probably 50 UD flights.
#19
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
That's polite enough. Though generally from the crew's tone and language I can work it out. Usually along the lines of "Mr W, we have a passenger who would really appreciate a window seat. Would you be willing to change to a very comfortable aisle seat downstairs?"
That said, this particular situations has happened to me twice, out of probably 50 UD flights.
That said, this particular situations has happened to me twice, out of probably 50 UD flights.
I quietly motioned to a crew member and said I would be happy to move as I was on my own and just to let me know if I could help but that I'd prefer not to move to a middle pair. I figured it was better to move than to let the crew spend too much time rearranging people and delaying departure.
After 5 minutes - same crew member came up and said "Mr MPH1980 - thank you for your offer - would you mind moving for me?". I simply said "yes" - I had no preconceptions about where I was moving to. As I was led away - the crew member said "I've found you a seat in the first row - it's a nice seat". This raised my hopes. Sadly - the crew member meant a aisle seat in the first row of club.
Somethings are not meant to be.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,165
To be fair, on that last occasion the ground staff did try to call down to the gate to get me moved into F, but F was already totally full.
Back on topic...I have not yet flown in 2018 to have any DYKWIA behaviour to report...I will happily conclude with my late December "reverse DYKWIA" at Amsterdam, gate staff calling for Club & Gold when the lady in front of me catches sight of the yellow boarding pass on my phone and tries to jump out of the way on the basis 'but you're Gold and they might not let me through' - to which I could only insist she went ahead since I doubted the gate staff were being all that strict (they were not) and we would all arrive in London at the exact same time (which of course we did!).
Back on topic...I have not yet flown in 2018 to have any DYKWIA behaviour to report...I will happily conclude with my late December "reverse DYKWIA" at Amsterdam, gate staff calling for Club & Gold when the lady in front of me catches sight of the yellow boarding pass on my phone and tries to jump out of the way on the basis 'but you're Gold and they might not let me through' - to which I could only insist she went ahead since I doubted the gate staff were being all that strict (they were not) and we would all arrive in London at the exact same time (which of course we did!).
#21
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: All over the place often South Wales and Lake District
Programs: BA Gold for Life Accor Platinum
Posts: 4,552
I remember my brother-in-law being irritable because he wanted the window seat on an EZY flight. I relinquished my 'window' seat, which turned out to be one of those seats that have the wall not the window. I got daggers when I asked him if he was enjoying the view...
#23
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: City of Kingston Upon Hull
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 4,940
For those of us who don't know one aircraft from another, and haven't memorised seat maps, how do we subtly determine whether the seat we're being asked to move to is in First Class? I have two flights coming up in 64K and would like to be prepared.
Perhaps "I appreciate these passengers' desire to sit together, but am a little reluctant to move... is my new seat better than this one?"
Perhaps "I appreciate these passengers' desire to sit together, but am a little reluctant to move... is my new seat better than this one?"
#25
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Surrey, UK
Programs: BA Gold, *A Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 654
Yup, but if you want the window seat you can either pay for it or reserve it for free through status...I get too many of the "innocent" requests from BA ground staff to swap seats with other passengers who should simply have paid for them...most recently, being asked to switch out of 64K on the Upper Deck 747 (best seat in the house...) for a random aisle downstairs because "two passengers want to sit together". Sorry, not my problem and if they were that fussed they could have paid for the seats they wanted....
#26
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Thames Valley
Programs: BAEC, LHM&M, and even a dusty KLFB!
Posts: 893
I've said it before, I'll say it again: when you have window seat at night don't look down, look up. It doesn't quite compare to lying back on a mountain top at midnight,, but you'll rarely see a better display of the stars...
#27
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
I do know the arrested man’s name but I didn’t see the incident in question. Tonight’s BA427 AMS-LHR was held at the gate after landing while a passenger was detained for threatening and/or drunken behaviour.
I was asleep though. No word if anyone did a pop,
I was asleep though. No word if anyone did a pop,
#28
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,143
Waiting too long to get off? - just open the exit door! :o)
Just saw this. Not BA but Ryanair and apparently the passenger just didn't want to wait to get off! Here is some context to the story.
An impatient passenger forced his way out of the emergency exit of a Ryanair plane after he became fed up of waiting to alight. The man, a 57-year-old Polish national, was left perching on the wing of flight FR8164 as it sat on the tarmac at Malaga airport.He took his hand luggage with him, but was eventually talked into getting back inside the plane by ground staff worried he was going to jump off the wing.
The man, who was arrested by local police, had allegedly become frustrated when the plane was delayed by almost an hour leaving Stansted Airport on New Year's Day.
An impatient passenger forced his way out of the emergency exit of a Ryanair plane after he became fed up of waiting to alight. The man, a 57-year-old Polish national, was left perching on the wing of flight FR8164 as it sat on the tarmac at Malaga airport.He took his hand luggage with him, but was eventually talked into getting back inside the plane by ground staff worried he was going to jump off the wing.
The man, who was arrested by local police, had allegedly become frustrated when the plane was delayed by almost an hour leaving Stansted Airport on New Year's Day.
#29
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: France
Programs: too many
Posts: 686
Probably misunderstood when his friend said he wanted him to be his wingman :-)
#30
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Provincie Antwerpen, Vlaanderen, België
Programs: MUCCI Gold
Posts: 2,512
Regarding that particular story - someone on the same flight has since suggested that the passenger in question was asthmatic and having breathing difficulties. Possibly more a case of "don't you know what I am" - and it certainly underlines the importance of attentiveness and communication from the crew, both of which appear to have been unsurprisingly absent on the part of Ryanair.