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Old Feb 19, 2018, 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by Gomac


Just booked on of these myself, excellent deal for such a long direct flight out of LHR. Might even UUA to F!
Did you manage to UuA? Just wondering as I see it says no changes, no upgrades under the conditions. I was wondering whether that just prohibited putting it into a higher J bracket or using cash to upgrade to F after booking. I haven't heard of I fares that cant be upgraded with Avios, so would be interested if you were able to do this.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 1:41 am
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Originally Posted by gustavmahler
Did you manage to UuA? Just wondering as I see it says no changes, no upgrades under the conditions. I was wondering whether that just prohibited putting it into a higher J bracket or using cash to upgrade to F after booking. I haven't heard of I fares that cant be upgraded with Avios, so would be interested if you were able to do this.
That means you cannot pay to change the fare to a higher class, but does not prevent UUA, POUG or AUP.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by Airprox
That means you cannot pay to change the fare to a higher class, but does not prevent UUA, POUG or AUP.
That's what I thought. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by gustavmahler
Did you manage to UuA? Just wondering as I see it says no changes, no upgrades under the conditions. I was wondering whether that just prohibited putting it into a higher J bracket or using cash to upgrade to F after booking. I haven't heard of I fares that cant be upgraded with Avios, so would be interested if you were able to do this.
yes the UUA went through no problem with the BA holidays team.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I think this is the fare BA TLW7T1S4, there is no "ticket by" date but it could be repriced/withdrawn at any time. Available from CPH too at a slightly higher price but a much easier b2b there than OSL.
great info KARFA - what would the cancellation terms be on these ? Thanks
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 4:17 am
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Originally Posted by dewsburyborn
great info KARFA - what would the cancellation terms be on these ? Thanks
This should be it I think, basically non-refundable, or change for EUR180 + any fare difference.

Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
         NOTE -
          FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
          REFUNDABLE FARES
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
          CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
          THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
          IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
          ----------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
          ----------------------------------------------
          -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
          REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
          FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
          AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
          CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
          REFUND.
          FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
          ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
          THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          ORIGINAL.
          PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
          USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 180.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
          ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
          REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
          AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
          ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
          INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
          CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
          MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
          RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
          TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
          OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
          REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
           --- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
          REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
          HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
          REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
          A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
          FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
          TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
          AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
          CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
          FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
          BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
          THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET VALUE
          MUST BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
          MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
          BEING APPLIED.
          2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
          TICKET VALUE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF
          THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
          DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
          CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
          CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
          PERMITTED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
This should be it I think, basically non-refundable, or change for EUR180 + any fare difference.

Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
----------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
----------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
----------------------------------------------
-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 180.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
----------------------------------------------
CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
--------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET VALUE
MUST BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET VALUE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF
THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Thanks - any ideas what the situ would be on the miles used UuA in a cancellation situation ?
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by dewsburyborn
Thanks - any ideas what the situ would be on the miles used UuA in a cancellation situation ?
You get them back if you downgrade at least 24 hrs before the flight.

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...ditions-of-use

12. The fare conditions for the original ticket purchased will apply, please check Manage my Booking on Ba.com or call your local service centre. In addition, your upgrade will be subject to the following:
  1. Changes to the date or time of an upgrade flight must be made at least 24 hours prior to the scheduled departure of the first leg of the Reward itinerary.
  2. Changes are subject to availability in the original cabin, in addition to the upgraded cabin. Certain flights may have very limited or no availability on certain dates because of existing bookings. If the original booking is peak and the customer wishes to move to an off-peak date then the difference in Avios will be refunded. Equally, if moving from an off peak to a peak date, the additional Avios will be charged. Where there is no availability in the desired flight, Avios points will be re-credited to the Member’s account subject to reward flight booking and service fees that are applicable, which will need to be paid by the Member.
  3. Within 24 hours the Avios used for the upgrade are not refundable, however the Member can be downgraded back to the original cabin should the fare conditions allow and subject to availability on the desired flight.
  4. Cancellations at least 24 hours prior to departure of the first leg in the Reward itinerary, will be eligible for a full refund of the Avios used for the upgrade, and the fare conditions of the original booking will apply for any other refunds.
  5. Cancellations within 24 hours prior to departure of the first leg in the Reward itinerary, will not be eligible for a refund of the Avios used for the upgrade, and will be subject to the fare conditions of the original booking.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 7:13 am
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I found a nice promo directly on QR website, for TUN-PEN in April. I didn't have the time to check other dates so it's possible other months are available.
Price for one person is around €1050, while for 2 people the price is around €850 each. 560 TPs and short layover on outbound.
Minimum stay seems to be 3 days.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 7:24 am
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It's available on plenty of dates - doesn't show the reduced price until you've selected outbound on GF
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by Lefly
I found a nice promo directly on QR website, for TUN-PEN in April. I didn't have the time to check other dates so it's possible other months are available.
Price for one person is around €1050, while for 2 people the price is around €850 each. 560 TPs and short layover on outbound.
Minimum stay seems to be 3 days.
It‘s been around for a while. If you don‘t want to fly back to TUN you can try ARN for little more and easier positioning and the B787!
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by florens
It‘s been around for a while. If you don‘t want to fly back to TUN you can try ARN for little more and easier positioning and the B787!
I've been looking at September, where ARN is even the A350! The rule around the QR board is "never book for the aircraft" though, since the schedules are somewhat ... fluid. Has advantages, though - a fairly generous rerouting policy if they do mess about that might allow a switch to another port-of-origin more favourable for positioning.

I'm very tempted by this one.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by florens
It‘s been around for a while. If you don‘t want to fly back to TUN you can try ARN for little more and easier positioning and the B787!
Is that the same price range? I can't look it up because the QR site is appalling, doesn't even work in the slightest on my version of chrome on linux.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by florens
It‘s been around for a while. If you don‘t want to fly back to TUN you can try ARN for little more and easier positioning and the B787!

This low? It was the first time I saw 850 eur each in a couple booking...

Last edited by Lefly; Feb 19, 2018 at 12:52 pm Reason: spelling
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 10:49 am
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You all seem to find some amazing deals throughout here and the TP Run thread. What is your preferred method of searching for Business Class travel? There are so many different ways to search and investigating different routes, I find that Skyscanner can fail to find you the best deals and you are unable to search for business fares over a week/month long period. Any little bit of advice or any links to somewhere that some good tips are documented would be great.
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