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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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  • from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details

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See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe
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3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
From North, Central and South America

23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com



From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 4, 18, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by Shl View Post
Hi there, I have a question for the TP run masters:

We have booked a flight OSL-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/ LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-OSL
Now - due to a schedule change - AA has 'optimized' my route to OSL-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/ LAS-LHR-OSL

What do you suggest?
1. Shall I ask for original routing back, as it also includes A Class LAX-JFK?
2. If not, the route they offer now would have been much cheaper if booked so from the start?
3. And, lastly, what happens to TP earning?

Thanks for your advise.
No problem, AA can handle this in the way you wish They are exceedingly helpful when you call.

1. Yes, you can ask for the routing you wish (including getting back those A-class on the transcons) - but be prepared with your itinerary that you want before you make that call
2. If the routing is now cheaper, then ask for a full refund, then book the routing as a fresh booking - no problem with this
3. If you want to guarantee maximum TPs, it is always best to fly the sectors that will generate them (rather than relying on the possibility of ORC - original routing credit - which may or may not be provided)

Hope this helps

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Old Jan 4, 18, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd View Post
3. If you accept your 'new' routing you can ask for ORC - original routing credit - from BAEC and you should be creditted with what you originally booked, but if you want to guarantee maximum TPs, it is always best to fly to get them than risk a BAEC agent's discretion in anyway
I thought ORC only applied in an IRROPS situation? I wasn't aware it applied for a schedule change agreed to by pax. Good to know if it does apply.
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I thought ORC only applied in an IRROPS situation? I wasn't aware it applied for a schedule change agreed to by pax. Good to know if it does apply.
That is a very good point, I need to check. I will update my post!
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exOTP Advanced Purchase Fare BA ILN8C8S4 to PHX

Some information below on this advanced purchase OTP fare. I think this does cover multiple US destinations, but this is highlighted for PHX which is particularly cheap.

Routings via HEL are possible so: OTP-LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX-PHX-LAX-JFK-HEL-LHR-OTP. Also bear in mind LHR-OTP is a short haul + route so earns 80 TPs one way in J, so a simple OTP-LHR- JFK-LAX-PHX-LAX-JFK- LHR-OTP would earn 80+140+140+40+40+140+140+80=800 TP.

The fare does cover travel dates for 2018. However, if you are looking for late 2018 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days.

As it is an advanced purchase fare there is no explicit end date.

Example price:

OTP-PHX - £1,296





This allows positioning for your inbound TATL prior to the Sunday. You can therefore set off from PHX on Saturday arriving in to NYC during Saturday, have a night in NYC night, and then do your TATL on Sunday.




So 2 transfers in Europe and 2 transfers in the US each way. An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights would be counted as a transfer, anything beyond that would be a stopover.



Stopovers can be done in Europe. Bear mind the cost of doing a stopover in London on the way out is a lot more expensive since APD is £150, so the total additional cost of adding a stopover in London would be €150 + £150 + any other airport fees. On the inbound if you did a stopover in London you would only pay the extra £26 APD for the LHR-OTP sector.

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I tried very hard to locate this on google flights for August assuming it would work...but really couldn't get it to even give me oneworld options...are you able to send me a link please?
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A quick 105 TPs

I'm trying to my other half up to Silver - 105 tier points needed by end Feb 2018. A quick jaunt around Europe should be fine. I see these options in Club Europe starting in London:

1. A pair of London to short haul returns at 4x40 - finding the time is proving tricky!
2. A short haul plus return at 2x80 - not many that we've not been to and actually want to go to.
3. An open jaw trip including a short haul plus (eg LON-VIE, SOF-LHR) taking a train or economy flight in between at 40+80. Makes for a long journey home but it is a TP run after all!
4. A three-legged journey at 3x40 eg LON-VIE-MAD-LON

So I'm trying to price up option four but can't get the prices below about £700 per person. I'd thought that BA out, then Iberia or Finnair and then BA home would be simple but the middle legs are coming out very expensive on a joint ticket or on a separate ticket for the middle flight (being one-way).

Any tips? Anything I'm missing?
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Originally Posted by LondonTechTraveller View Post
I'm trying to my other half up to Silver - 105 tier points needed by end Feb 2018. A quick jaunt around Europe should be fine. I see these options in Club Europe starting in London:

1. A pair of London to short haul returns at 4x40 - finding the time is proving tricky!
2. A short haul plus return at 2x80 - not many that we've not been to and actually want to go to.
3. An open jaw trip including a short haul plus (eg LON-VIE, SOF-LHR) taking a train or economy flight in between at 40+80. Makes for a long journey home but it is a TP run after all!
4. A three-legged journey at 3x40 eg LON-VIE-MAD-LON

So I'm trying to price up option four but can't get the prices below about £700 per person. I'd thought that BA out, then Iberia or Finnair and then BA home would be simple but the middle legs are coming out very expensive on a joint ticket or on a separate ticket for the middle flight (being one-way).

Any tips? Anything I'm missing?
What about those fares on BA/IB to Spain via MAD? Will yield 40+20+20+40, only a saturday night stay required. VLC? AGP? SVQ? You might even get to fly the IB A340.
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Old Jan 4, 18, 10:22 am
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Gatwick-Malta return for £271 and 160 TP? Seems widely available in Jan/Feb.

Or 2 trips Gatwick-Genoa return for £145 (x2) = £290 and 160TP.

A few other ideas on this thread, although the headline BCN price seems to have crept up now... Ba: Lgw - bcn j £139 [80tp]
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Thanks rossmacd and gcuk for your feedback!
I will call AA and ask them to re-build based on the booked itinerary.

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Old Jan 4, 18, 10:45 am
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What about those fares on BA/IB to Spain via MAD? Will yield 40+20+20+40, only a saturday night stay required. VLC? AGP? SVQ? You might even get to fly the IB A340.
Bilbao looks cheap!

LHR-MAD-BIO return, with BA 787 to MAD and IB A340 to LHR... £221 and 120TP

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...040*.GBP.22040
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Old Jan 4, 18, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd View Post
No problem, AA can handle this in the way you wish They are exceedingly helpful when you call.

1. Yes, you can ask for the routing you wish (including getting back those A-class on the transcons) - but be prepared with your itinerary that you want before you make that call
2. If the routing is now cheaper, then ask for a full refund, then book the routing as a fresh booking - no problem with this
3. If you want to guarantee maximum TPs, it is always best to fly the sectors that will generate them (rather than relying on the possibility of ORC - original routing credit - which may or may not be provided)

Hope this helps
For all as a point of reference:

I am just off the phone with BAEC.
BA would only honor points for the original booking if booked with BA.
In our case, the tickets have been booked on AA stock.
Therefore BA would NOT honor the original booking and would only credit points as per NEW routing.

-> I will now have to discuss with AA to put me on the old legs/ booking classes and booking codes.

Update: AA was able to rebuild the original itinerary - however, due to schedule changes with both BA and AA - we need to leave LAS the evening before our original morning departure as there is no early LAS-LAX connection to catch the earlier LAX-JFK.

Everyone with a OSL-LAS TP run itinerary should check their tickets. Changes came in this afternoon.

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Old Jan 4, 18, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by wingtip428 View Post


Bilbao looks cheap!

LHR-MAD-BIO return, with BA 787 to MAD and IB A340 to LHR... £221 and 120TP

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...040*.GBP.22040
These are super ideas - thanks all!
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Originally Posted by LondonTechTraveller View Post
These are super ideas - thanks all!
bilbao price has crept up to £361

adding in BHD as the starting point adds another 80TP and for £368. I make that £1.53/TP

am mobile presently so haven’t checked other regional airports to see if similar pricing applies.
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Originally Posted by phoneticduck View Post
bilbao price has crept up to £361
Still available on other flights that day for £221.

787/A340 combo should also still be available on other dates too: https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...040*.GBP.22040
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I tried very hard to locate this on google flights for August assuming it would work...but really couldn't get it to even give me oneworld options...are you able to send me a link please?
Hi capt787. Sorry I don't have a link. However, if you can get to grips with it I would really recommend using itamatrix for looking at these complex itineraries. Have a look at rossmacd's excellent post up thread which has some screenshots on searching for this very OTP-PHX fare.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29240873-post36.html
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Old Jan 4, 18, 2:11 pm
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[QUOTE=KARFA;29235643]exAMS Advanced Purchase Fare INCEU60 to BKK

Some information below on this advanced purchase exAMS fare to BKK. At £1,340 this can be a cheap way to get to all Far East destinations. Also AMS is fool proof for back to backs.

Permitted routings are:
1. AMS-LON-BKK
2. AMS-LON-HKG-CX/HX/RJ-BKK
3. AMS-LON-KUL-BA/MH/RJ-BKK
4. AMS-LON-SIN-3K/CX-BKK

Both LHR to SIN and KUL earn 160 TP in J, LHR-HKG is just 140 TP. Be careful if going to KUL as you may be routed on MH to BKK in I class which earns no TPs or avios.



Any idea why MH I class KUL-BKK has zero TPs? All their other classes earn TPs. It looks like RJ earns 40TPs in I on that route.
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