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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details

See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
From North, Central and South America

23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com



From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Nov 5, 18, 8:19 pm
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since IB flights also count towards the 4 flights silver qualification, have a look at MAD/BIO/SVQ etc on IB.
In Madrid especially hotels tend to be cheaper on the weekends.
Sorry in pulling in an old response. I am looking into climbing the BA ladder with lifetime Gold as my new job puts me in J for anything > 4 hours.

With regard IB counting, if it is IB code operated by Vueling does it counts? or it has to be IB code and operated?
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Sorry in pulling in an old response. I am looking into climbing the BA ladder with lifetime Gold as my new job puts me in J for anything > 4 hours.

With regard IB counting, if it is IB code operated by Vueling does it counts? or it has to be IB code and operated?
for IB it has to be IB marketed and operated. IB marketed and VY operated wouldn’t count.
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:06 am
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Just a quick update on my progress towards booking my first TP run... it isn't good.

I decided to call AA and see if they can help me book my itinerary. Again, very helpful agent tried but was stopped by the system... she couldn't book more than 6 sectors on the one PNR. Splitting the trip sent the price out of acceptable range.

So I am a bit stuck. I saw that the UL DXB-CMB-CGK was great value so I am looking at doing a LHR-DXB using cash and Avios and then 3 x DXB-CMB-CGK almost b2b but on different PNRs with a night in the Premier Inn at DXB between them. I might stick myself in the pod hotel in Jakarta just for fun! The trip is a little less interesting and would take a bit longer but I would get to Gold for not a lot more than Silver going West.

The return stop at CMB is just 1hr 5 mins but I heard that it is a very small airport and making that connection should be fine (I'll be HBO). Fingers crossed... I'd have to do it 3 times without a hitch. What are the chances?

I am determined to get something booked today. I have spend days on this... I am getting a bit tired of looking at Matrix now!
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:14 am
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I haven’t paid much attention to that particular run, but I know that several folk from here have done it... and if memory serves, with some mixed results for an Asian B2B (which I think was at CMB).

I think several have managed it, though it is right, but I recall at least one person not making it - possibly @teledude or @KARFA? I am on my phone so finding it hard to find the right thread/posts where this was discussed. I would be cautious and consider waiting until you’ve checked this.

Originally Posted by snaxmuppet View Post
I am determined to get something booked today. I have spend days on this... I am getting a bit tired of looking at Matrix now!
My general rule is that if I’m getting a bit “trigger happy” on an airline fare (or any other purchase!) after a prolonged period, it probably means I may not be approaching it entirely rationally, and I would take a break before committing. There is a definite psychological ‘thrill’ of getting a good deal out of a fare (I definitely felt it when I did several trips to TLL, which wasn’t even a TP run really).
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:15 am
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Just a quick update on my progress towards booking my first TP run... it isn't good.

I decided to call AA and see if they can help me book my itinerary. Again, very helpful agent tried but was stopped by the system... she couldn't book more than 6 sectors on the one PNR. Splitting the trip sent the price out of acceptable range.

So I am a bit stuck. I saw that the UL DXB-CMB-CGK was great value so I am looking at doing a LHR-DXB using cash and Avios and then 3 x DXB-CMB-CGK almost b2b but on different PNRs with a night in the Premier Inn at DXB between them. I might stick myself in the pod hotel in Jakarta just for fun! The trip is a little less interesting and would take a bit longer but I would get to Gold for not a lot more than Silver going West.

The return stop at CMB is just 1hr 5 mins but I heard that it is a very small airport and making that connection should be fine (I'll be HBO). Fingers crossed... I'd have to do it 3 times without a hitch. What are the chances?

I am determined to get something booked today. I have spend days on this... I am getting a bit tired of looking at Matrix now!
That's simply incorrect - you can have up to 16 sectors on an e-ticket.
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:16 am
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I haven’t paid much attention to that particular run, but I know that several folk from here have done it... and if memory serves, with some mixed results for an Asian B2B (which I think was at CMB).

I think several have managed it, though it is right, but I recall at least one person not making it - possibly @teledude or @KARFA? I am on my phone so finding it hard to find the right thread/posts where this was discussed. I would be cautious and consider waiting until you’ve checked this.

My general rule is that if I’m getting a bit “trigger happy” on an airline fare (or any other purchase!) after a prolonged period, it probably means I may not be approaching it entirely rationally, and I would take a break before committing. There is a definite psychological ‘thrill’ of getting a good deal out of a fare (I definitely felt it when I did several trips to TLL, which wasn’t even a TP run really).
B2B at CGK is possible, but not very easy - a lot of things need to line up for it to work. @teledude was the one where it didn't work!
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:18 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet View Post
I decided to call AA and see if they can help me book my itinerary. Again, very helpful agent tried but was stopped by the system... she couldn't book more than 6 sectors on the one PNR.
i wince when I hear this, you seem to have got another agent determined to talk out of their bumhole sadly. There is no such limit. If you go on aa.com I think it has space for 6 city pairs - each city pair can include more than one sector - so a search for city pair NYC-SFO should show the JFK-LAX-SFO option. There is a sector limit but I think it is something like 16 or more, well above what a normal exEU booking to the US would have. I have no idea why the agent couldn’t simply take the flight numbers and dates and price it up. It’s really disappointing to see yet another useless booking agent.

Did using ita PowerTools and transferring it to aa.com not work? Hope you get it booked soon.
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:20 am
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B2B at CGK is possible, but not very easy - a lot of things need to line up for it to work. @teledude was the one where it didn't work!
Ah, thanks for the clarification @flashware. Never mind me, @snaxmuppet, I’m sure someone can fill you in on CMB B2B possibilities
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Tried again this morning (phew! At least I am persistent!).

Foiled again...

This time a different excuse... he insisted that all sectors on a single PNR must be the same fare class. In my case I priced up the trip as mostly in I but with two sectors in J. He insisted that their system would only price up the trip if the class was the same for all sectors... in this case J. Needless to say... over doubled the price.

Tried powertools... using settings I set the American currency to GBP but it came out in Euros. Perhaps I could put it on hold but I am more interested in going East now and going for Gold instead of Silver.

Thanks for all your help. I didn't think it would be this difficult to be honest.
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet View Post
This time a different excuse... he insisted that all sectors on a single PNR must be the same fare class.
Arghhhhhhhhhh
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Old Nov 6, 18, 1:48 am
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My general rule is that if I’m getting a bit “trigger happy” on an airline fare (or any other purchase!) after a prolonged period, it probably means I may not be approaching it entirely rationally, and I would take a break before committing. There is a definite psychological ‘thrill’ of getting a good deal out of a fare (I definitely felt it when I did several trips to TLL, which wasn’t even a TP run really).
That is good advice and this is why I haven't just gone ahead and booked it regardless. But my wife is getting fed up with me spending so much time researching that I have to either pull the trigger or forget it... at least for a while. The thing is that I have gone through this loop quite a few times in the past 6 months or so. Each failed because I couldn't find anything to suit my available dates. I am, by nature, a very cautious beast when it comes to spending thousands of pound on anything
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet View Post
Tried again this morning (phew! At least I am persistent!).

Foiled again...

This time a different excuse... he insisted that all sectors on a single PNR must be the same fare class. In my case I priced up the trip as mostly in I but with two sectors in J. He insisted that their system would only price up the trip if the class was the same for all sectors... in this case J. Needless to say... over doubled the price.

Tried powertools... using settings I set the American currency to GBP but it came out in Euros. Perhaps I could put it on hold but I am more interested in going East now and going for Gold instead of Silver.

Thanks for all your help. I didn't think it would be this difficult to be honest.
Do these idiots just sit in front of ba.com or aa.com and spew out random reasons why the system cannot book what the passenger wants?

I have been mostly lucky getting knowledgable agents recently and usually I will tell them from the start the exact fare code I want them to use as well as the booking code for each individual sector. In some cases even the agent is surprised that it prices out and at the low cost compared to other tickets they have been selling. In the case of a useless agent, and you can mostly tell from the start if this is the case, I usually find a polite excuse for stopping the call and try my like with somebody else.

If you do have the opportunity to put a booking on hold with aa.com, you should do so. You can then call an agent to issue the ticket but ask to be billed in the currency of your choice.
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Old Nov 6, 18, 5:08 am
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Do these idiots just sit in front of ba.com or aa.com and spew out random reasons why the system cannot book what the passenger wants?
Probably, I was on with the Japan line [India I think] last night to snag a JAL booking on a multipartner award and was being told that Avios couldn't be used for round the world trips - obviously complete nonsense. Had I been more awake, I would have pointed out that this was indeed the most direct way of reaching each of the destinations desired. Fortunately the the desired seats were still available this morning, and the Gold line sorted everything promptly.
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Old Nov 6, 18, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet View Post
Tried again this morning (phew! At least I am persistent!).

Foiled again...

This time a different excuse... he insisted that all sectors on a single PNR must be the same fare class. In my case I priced up the trip as mostly in I but with two sectors in J. He insisted that their system would only price up the trip if the class was the same for all sectors... in this case J. Needless to say... over doubled the price.

Tried powertools... using settings I set the American currency to GBP but it came out in Euros. Perhaps I could put it on hold but I am more interested in going East now and going for Gold instead of Silver.

Thanks for all your help. I didn't think it would be this difficult to be honest.

Bring it up in ITA Copy and paste the whole summary screen into bookwithmatrix.com rather than powertools and it will be bookable via priceline or Flight Network or even AA.com you might have to suck it up and pay in dollars, If it gets to the payment screen on AA.com and is in dolars just fill in your address as normal pick California and 90210 as the zip and its always worked for me
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Old Nov 6, 18, 8:50 am
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Thanks... yes, I am sure I could get it ticketed through a travel agent via bookwithmatrix but I really didn't want to use a TA... neither did I want to use a GBP credit card and pay in anything other than GBP. Thanks anyway but I have now planned a run for Gold to the East

I am planning:

LHR - DXB BA Y (part pay with Avios)

DXB - CMB - CGK UL
CGK - CMB - DXB UL

All in J.

Doing that 3 times with a 1 night stopover in DXB. Hotels are so cheap in CGK that I am staying a night there each time through also to save me worrying about the tight b2b.

Then:
DXB - LHR Y (the return from my outbound)

Then to get up to the 4 qualifying flights I am doing:

LHR - AMS - LHR with BA in Y (only £60 cash!)

Then home for a well-earned rest but as a Gold member!

With so much slack built in (an overnight hotel stay at each DXB and CGK) I am hoping that it is a more relaxed trip than say, with b2bs at CGK or DXB. I have the time and the hotels aren't expensive.

I am booking the BA legs on ba.com and the UL legs direct with UL as a set of 3 DXB - CGK returns on separate tickets.

Can anyone see any issues I may have missed?
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