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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX Ł1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - Ł1,296, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - Ł1,340, see linked post for details

See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
From North, Central and South America

23Sep Ł1.48/TP Ł650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep Ł1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open Ł1.94/TP Ł700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com



From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan Ł1.58/TP Ł883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb Ł1.44/TP Ł575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb Ł1.53/TP Ł860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar Ł1.22/TP Ł687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr Ł0.87/TP Ł314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr Ł1.19/TP Ł335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr Ł1.28/TP Ł335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr Ł2.00/TP Ł320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 3:04 pm
  #3121  
 
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Originally Posted by onobond
Please check out posts 3106-9 above. Domestic business fares in Spain only earn 20 TP each. The only flights in your suggested flight plan earning 40 TP are LHR-MAD and MAD-LHR, the other four are 20 TP each. So, sadly the sum will only be 160 TP.
I think it adds up to 180, the 340 is a nice big plane with flat bed seating on the way home.

Sorry, should have made it clearer.
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 3:25 pm
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LHR-MAD-ALC-IBZ = 40+20+20
IBZ- VLC = 20
VLC-MAD-LHR = 20+40

From the math I learned in school that makes 160.

Btw, the 340 is indeed a nice plane, but still only 40 TP
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 3:31 pm
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Fair enough, I blame the heat
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 3:01 am
  #3124  
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Reported in HfP today, AA/BB J fare LON-OGG SQX5C7M4/IQX5C7M4

~Ł1,607, should be able to do something like LHR-JFK-LAX-OGG rtn for 840 TPs.

FROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED TUE/WED/THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
ROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED 03JAN 19 THROUGH 14FEB 19 FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED 07JAN 19 THROUGH 19FEB 19 FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 180 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
AA fare -
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 250.00 EACH
BA fare -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 300.00 EACH.
AA fare
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
        REFUND.
         NOTE -
          IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER
          /OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
          BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
          VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAILS.
          ----
          FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
          CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
          ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
          RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
          -----
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
          THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
          PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
          REFUNDABLE FARE
          1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
          2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
          -----
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
          MODIFICATION.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
          ORIGINAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WILL APPLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
          ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
          APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
           CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL
          BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE   R
          ETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFU
          NDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
           THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID FOR
          TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA ONLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          IN CASE OF NO-SHOW - REFUND/CHANGE IS NOT
          PERMITTED.
          --------------------------------------------------
                     CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          -----
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
          CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
          REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          --------------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E.  ADVANCE
          RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
          STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY  ETC.
          -----
          REISSUES/EXCHANGES NOT ALLOWED TO EOU/ERU FARE
          TYPES.
BA fare
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
         NOTE -
          FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
          --------------------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
          REFUNDABLE FARES
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
          CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
          THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
          IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          ---------------------------------------------
          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
          --------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
          ---------------------------------------------
          ------ CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS-----
          REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
          FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
          AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
          CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
          REFUND.
          FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
          ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
          THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          ORIGINAL.
          PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
          USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
         NOTE -
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
          CHANGE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED
          FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
          WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH
          CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE
          COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 3:09 am
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There is also a different slightly more expensive version covering some other dates filed

AA/BB J fare LON-OGG SLX5C7M4/ILX5C7M4

~Ł1,650, should be able to do something like LHR-JFK-LAX-OGG rtn for 840 TPs.

FROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED TUE/WED/THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
FROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED 28OCT 18 THROUGH 11DEC 18 OR 24DEC 18 THROUGH 31DEC 18 OR 01JAN 19 THROUGH 02JAN 19 OR 15FEB 19 THROUGH 29MAR 19 OR 27OCT 19 THROUGH 12DEC 19 OR 24DEC 19 THROUGH 31DEC 19 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

TO UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED 29OCT 18 THROUGH 31DEC 18 OR 20FEB 19 THROUGH 06APR 19 OR 29OCT 19 THROUGH 31DEC 19 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 180 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
AA fare - [quote]2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 250.00 EACH[quote]
BA fare -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 300.00 EACH.
AA fare
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
NOTE -
IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER
/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAILS.
----
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
-----
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
REFUNDABLE FARE
1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
-----
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
ORIGINAL TICKET.
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
APPLY.
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WILL APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL
BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE R
ETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFU
NDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID FOR
TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA ONLY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF NO-SHOW - REFUND/CHANGE IS NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
-----
WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
--------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E. ADVANCE
RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY ETC.
-----
REISSUES/EXCHANGES NOT ALLOWED TO EOU/ERU FARE
TYPES.
BA fare
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
---------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
--------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
---------------------------------------------
------ CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS-----
REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED
FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH
CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE
COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 3:54 am
  #3126  
 
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Definitely not bad for Hawaii exUK, I tried to see if exINV brought the price down and it doesn't on the AA fare.

A HEL shuffle would be nice for extra points but it certainly isn't the worse and around the price we paid exDUB last year
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 5:32 am
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Posts: 42
I am in PHX in October for the NFL. Just looking at the LAX-PHX-LAS hop for Ł250. Are there any quick mini runs that can be done starting in PHX at that sort of money? Probably looking at 19/20 for it and can do an overnight in Vegas. I doubt it will be a hardship. Thanks in advance.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 6:48 am
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How do you actually go about booking one of these, by phoning BA and quoting the fare details? When I go to AA and put in a multi-city route matching those dates routing via JFK, I can't get anywhere near those prices unless it is LHR-LAX-OGG...I suspect I'm doing something wrong.

[QUOTE=KARFA;30007010]There is also a different slightly more expensive version covering some other dates filed

AA/BB J fare LON-OGG SLX5C7M4/ILX5C7M4

~Ł1,650, should be able to do something like LHR-JFK-LAX-OGG rtn for 840 TPs.









AA fare - [quote]2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 250.00 EACH
BA fare -

AA fare
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
NOTE -
IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER
/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAILS.
----
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
-----
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
REFUNDABLE FARE
1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
-----
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
ORIGINAL TICKET.
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
APPLY.
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THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WILL APPLY.
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IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
APPLIED.
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WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL
BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE R
ETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFU
NDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID FOR
TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA ONLY.
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REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
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IN CASE OF NO-SHOW - REFUND/CHANGE IS NOT
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CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
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ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
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WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
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//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
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FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
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OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E. ADVANCE
RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY ETC.
-----
REISSUES/EXCHANGES NOT ALLOWED TO EOU/ERU FARE
TYPES.
BA fare
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
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WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
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WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
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REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
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ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
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TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
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ORIGINAL.
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USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
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CHANGE.
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED
FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH
CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE
COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 7:01 am
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[QUOTE=Alexanderw;30007435]How do you actually go about booking one of these, by phoning BA and quoting the fare details? When I go to AA and put in a multi-city route matching those dates routing via JFK, I can't get anywhere near those prices unless it is LHR-LAX-OGG...I suspect I'm doing something wrong.

[QUOTE=KARFA;30007010]There is also a different slightly more expensive version covering some other dates filed

AA/BB J fare LON-OGG SLX5C7M4/ILX5C7M4

~Ł1,650, should be able to do something like LHR-JFK-LAX-OGG rtn for 840 TPs.









AA fare -
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 250.00 EACH
I booked one of these about a month ago, well think it was the same as this, but the same price, also allowed me to start from home (Edinburgh)

You can book it using BA multi city and it’ll give all BA codes for extra Avios, and all my legs apart from the TATL went into J class.

(When you go through, it did say my jfk-lax was only available in economy, but if you select the flight you want and ignore it, it will appear on the next page in business class)
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by Alexanderw
How do you actually go about booking one of these, by phoning BA and quoting the fare details? When I go to AA and put in a multi-city route matching those dates routing via JFK, I can't get anywhere near those prices unless it is LHR-LAX-OGG...I suspect I'm doing something wrong.
I've booked one of these a few weeks ago, settled for LHR-LAX-OGG // HNL-LAX-LHR with a 23h layover in LAX on return, managed to snag an upgrade to F on outbound, total price Ł1700pp.
How did I book it? I've found an availability using ITA Matrix, then used multicity on BA to select desired flights and it priced up correctly.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 7:55 am
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If you are open with dates you can get INV - HNL for Ł1461 as you give up the APD
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by megaloman
I've booked one of these a few weeks ago, settled for LHR-LAX-OGG // HNL-LAX-LHR with a 23h layover in LAX on return, managed to snag an upgrade to F on outbound, total price Ł1700pp.
How did I book it? I've found an availability using ITA Matrix, then used multicity on BA to select desired flights and it priced up correctly.
Great snag! Just talked with BA, the promotion has ended July 13 - unfortunately.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by Shl
Great snag! Just talked with BA, the promotion has ended July 13 - unfortunately.
Yeah the BA site wouldn't let me actually book the flights and the agents confirmed that all the 'I' class fares had gone.
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 10:55 am
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Have I gone mad, or has all information on fare class been taken off Google flights?
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Old Jul 24, 2018, 11:50 am
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You are sticking your head out, asking those kind of questions



On the serious side, haven't really found myself comfortable with GF. ITA Matrix has disadvantages, but still more to my liking. Thus, no good answer from me on any of the two questions.
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