Last edit by: Scotflyer80
Currently these aircraft are based in LHR T5. The registrations are:
A320neo
G-TTNA
G-TTNB
G-TTNC
G-TTND
G-TTNE
G-TTNF
G-TTNG
G-TTNH
G-TTNI
G-TTNJ
G-TTNK
G-TTNL
G-TTNM
G-TTNO
A321neo
G-NEOP
G-NEOR
G-NEOS
G-NEOT
G-NEOU
G-NEOV
G-NEOW
G-NEOX
G-NEOY
G-NEOZ
A320neo
G-TTNA
G-TTNB
G-TTNC
G-TTND
G-TTNE
G-TTNF
G-TTNG
G-TTNH
G-TTNI
G-TTNJ
G-TTNK
G-TTNL
G-TTNM
G-TTNO
A321neo
G-NEOP
G-NEOR
G-NEOS
G-NEOT
G-NEOU
G-NEOV
G-NEOW
G-NEOX
G-NEOY
G-NEOZ
NEOs and a couple of SH changes
#376
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: BA Blue, EI Silver, Honours Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,202
Many airlines have different Y and C class seats, so I dont think its reasonable to criticise BA for that. Aegean, Air Baltic 737s spring to mind. In many ways its a return to how things were before the convertible business class seats were removed and Club passengers are guaranteed a genuinely better seat.
Indeed on the 767 and 757 the last cabin Section had cloth seats.
Those recaro seats dont seem to have much padding though.
Indeed on the 767 and 757 the last cabin Section had cloth seats.
Those recaro seats dont seem to have much padding though.
#377
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,357
Many airlines have different Y and C class seats, so I dont think its reasonable to criticise BA for that. Aegean, Air Baltic 737s spring to mind. In many ways its a return to how things were before the convertible business class seats were removed and Club passengers are guaranteed a genuinely better seat.
Indeed on the 767 and 757 the last cabin Section had cloth seats.
Those recaro seats dont seem to have much padding though.
Indeed on the 767 and 757 the last cabin Section had cloth seats.
Those recaro seats dont seem to have much padding though.
Clever strategy but pretty obvious to the frequent customer, who will see right through this! You can't fool your customers by then saying "we are still a premium airline." Frankly that's insulting to its customers.
#380
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK.
Programs: SQ LPPS, A3 *G, BA Silver aiming for Bronze
Posts: 1,506
#381
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: Executive Club: Gold - Flying Blue: Gold
Posts: 1,368
Whilst I agree on many aspects here, what I see is a 'chipping' away at the premium product over a few months/years to the point when the premium product simply becomes the basic product, for BA to then repackage the basic product to a minimal, extremely poor and cheap below basic (like the 'savers' range now on offer at Morrisons) product which makes the Premium product look premium again, if that makes sense?!
Clever strategy but pretty obvious to the frequent customer, who will see right through this! You can't fool your customers by then saying "we are still a premium airline." Frankly that's insulting to its customers.
Clever strategy but pretty obvious to the frequent customer, who will see right through this! You can't fool your customers by then saying "we are still a premium airline." Frankly that's insulting to its customers.
#383
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Edinburgh UK
Programs: BA Silver, HHonours Gold, Mucci of Pucci, Oyster Card, Nectar Card, Father's Day Card
Posts: 9,372
#384
Join Date: May 2016
Location: GLA
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 143
Many airlines have different Y and C class seats, so I dont think its reasonable to criticise BA for that. Aegean, Air Baltic 737s spring to mind. In many ways its a return to how things were before the convertible business class seats were removed and Club passengers are guaranteed a genuinely better seat.
Indeed on the 767 and 757 the last cabin Section had cloth seats.
Those recaro seats dont seem to have much padding though.
Indeed on the 767 and 757 the last cabin Section had cloth seats.
Those recaro seats dont seem to have much padding though.
Passenger A books Y and gets allocated a slim seat. Passenger B books and gets allocated a standard seat.
#385
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 573
#387
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: BA Blue, EI Silver, Honours Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,202
Yes, thats right. Most airlines using a flexible C/Y canine were like this. It was more noticeable when the use of 5(J)/6(Y) abreast variable geometry seats was widespread. The seat in the economy only area was very different and lighter. When the first generation of slimline seats came in the change was less so as the middle seat was simply blocked.
#388
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: London UK
Programs: BA Gold Guest List & GfL, Accor Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 185
Clearly the new cabin is not as good as the current Pinnacle with 168 seats. And various aspects of traditional service have been eroded. This is all about cutong costs and BA has not tried to hide this. I share the views of many here that this is unfortunate as I valued and have been willing to pay a premium over the completion, including Ryanair and easyJet, to travel BA.
BA tried to maintain a higher standard. However, the majority do not think it was worth paying for and simply book the cheapest available. BA has to compete if it wants to survive, and so is fitting the same seats as the competition. It looks like there will be some Pinnacle seats in Y, so isnt the answer is very simply use the money you are saving on the lower more competitive fares to pay to reserve a seat nearer the front of the plane? Of course, this is also a free benefit for relevant tiers of the BAEC as a recognition of their loyalty.
BA tried to maintain a higher standard. However, the majority do not think it was worth paying for and simply book the cheapest available. BA has to compete if it wants to survive, and so is fitting the same seats as the competition. It looks like there will be some Pinnacle seats in Y, so isnt the answer is very simply use the money you are saving on the lower more competitive fares to pay to reserve a seat nearer the front of the plane? Of course, this is also a free benefit for relevant tiers of the BAEC as a recognition of their loyalty.
#389
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK/France
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, EY Plat, etc
Posts: 349
I fly these slimline seats on EasyJet and Air France Domestic and they are acceptable for hops of about 1.5hrs. Going to Athens or Cyprus in these will not be fun.
Air France do not use these slimline Recaro on international short haul routes (they have the Pinnacle seats as BA do today with moveable divider). This seems a more sensible strategy but then again AF/KLM dont make the kind of profit that BA does.
I think BA has gone too far with densification if it results in a three class cabin on Short Haul which is what they have now ended up with.
WiFi (chargeable) and Power sockets dont compensate for the discomfort on a 4hr flight.
Air France do not use these slimline Recaro on international short haul routes (they have the Pinnacle seats as BA do today with moveable divider). This seems a more sensible strategy but then again AF/KLM dont make the kind of profit that BA does.
I think BA has gone too far with densification if it results in a three class cabin on Short Haul which is what they have now ended up with.
WiFi (chargeable) and Power sockets dont compensate for the discomfort on a 4hr flight.
#390
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,915
I agree that for a short period of time they're tolerable, but for those flying to Spain, Italy, et al, it's going to be a rush to book a seat before Row 12!
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