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Old Dec 18, 2017, 10:50 am
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BA: 9 abreast in 777 Economy

Since it seems AA is "densifying" (what an ugly term) their Main Cabin Extra mini-cabin to the nasty 10-abreast seating on the 777, I'm wondering how long BA will have 9 abreast seating on their 777s.

I read they tried to move to 10-abreast years ago but backtracked due to customer backlash. Now I read somewhere that the Gatwick fleet is moving to 10 abreast.

How long is the LHR fleet safe at 9 abreast? And what about equivalently wide seats and aisles for the 747 fleet?

If BA plan to move to entirely 10-abreast, which airlines flying LHR-NYC will still have 9-abreast in Economy?
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by salut0
If BA plan to move to entirely 10-abreast, which airlines flying LHR-NYC will still have 9-abreast in Economy?
Well, BA will - but it will be a 787-8 to EWR so probably not the first thing that comes to mind if comfort is your goal (I rather like the 787, but that's very much a minority opinion in these parts)

I had thought the LHR 777s were staying 9 abreast for the moment - but if the LGW move (which is going ahead) is deemed a success who knows how long that would be the case?
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 11:21 am
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I believe a total of 25 777s will be refurbished​​​/densified. I do not believe all of those will be based at Gatwick.
several other carriers have 10 abreast already with others to follow suit.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 11:24 am
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Discussion about LGW going 10-abreast here (includes discussion of other airlines with 10-abreast):
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ly-2018-a.html
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 11:26 am
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25 B772 are going 10 abreast. BA are already a narrow seat economy airline with the Dreamliners and the B787-10s will be as well. When the B773s are refurbished they are likely to go 10 abreast, same with the A380s who’ll likely go 11 abreast on the lower deck.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 11:34 am
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Many other airlines operating 777s are going 10 abreast. BA used to have this configuration many years ago in their LGW fleet (through a franchise partner AML), but ultimately stopped it due to customer complaints. However, now with improved slimmer seating and re-shaped walls, and upgraded IFE, it is deemed feasible again. Overall, the product looks an improvement on the current set up when you factor in the refreshment of the interior and the vastly improved Panasonic IFE (currently the best on the BA fleet).

It may be worth asking the question, 'Would I rather travel 9 abreast on the current 777s, or 10 abreast with brand new seats, new cabin interior with mood lighting etc and top of the range IFE?' I think i would choose the latter, but of course YMMV.
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Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
I believe a total of 25 777s will be refurbished​​​/densified. I do not believe all of those will be based at Gatwick.
Yes, my earlier comment about LHR was wrong. I remembered the discussion and the thread title mentioned LGW, but the details therein confirm LHR is affected as well.

Thanks for the correction.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 12:15 pm
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I have no issue with the 10 abreast 777 to be honest. For me it's pitch that is more important, so I actualy prefer a 10 abreast 777 with 33-34 inch pitch like EK versus a 9 abreast 777 with 33 inch pitch like BA!
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Flexible preferences
Many other airlines operating 777s are going 10 abreast. BA used to have this configuration many years ago in their LGW fleet (through a franchise partner AML), but ultimately stopped it due to customer complaints. However, now with improved slimmer seating and re-shaped walls, and upgraded IFE, it is deemed feasible again. Overall, the product looks an improvement on the current set up when you factor in the refreshment of the interior and the vastly improved Panasonic IFE (currently the best on the BA fleet).

It may be worth asking the question, 'Would I rather travel 9 abreast on the current 777s, or 10 abreast with brand new seats, new cabin interior with mood lighting etc and top of the range IFE?' I think i would choose the latter, but of course YMMV.
Having flown BA 10 abreast 777s numerous times, I would answer - I would rather travel 9 abreast on the current 777s.

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Old Dec 18, 2017, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
I have no issue with the 10 abreast 777 to be honest. For me it's pitch that is more important, so I actualy prefer a 10 abreast 777 with 33-34 inch pitch like EK versus a 9 abreast 777 with 33 inch pitch like BA!
It's not just the seat width thats an issue, It's nearly impossible to get up and down the aisles.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by richardwft
... same with the A380s who’ll likely go 11 abreast on the lower deck.


That sounds mighty unpleasant... anyhow, how would that work in practice? 4-3-4 or something?
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 2:06 pm
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by squawk




That sounds mighty unpleasant... anyhow, how would that work in practice? 4-3-4 or something?
I’d guess 3-5-3 would be more likely, less climbing over

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Old Dec 18, 2017, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by capin
It's not just the seat width thats an issue, It's nearly impossible to get up and down the aisles.
To be fair, we don't know this yet. We don't know if the new product will be comparable to what you endured with BA's old 10-abreast 777s. There will be much more modern, space-efficient new seats and perhaps a better use of internal space. Best to wait and see.
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