6 hours in Club World without Food or Drink!
#31
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: London
Programs: BA Executive Club
Posts: 111
Yes some passengers are greedy, some passengers have big appetites, some passengers would say the meal portions are small and some passengers would say the food on offer is not for them.
I wonder if they ever run out of F&B at IAG board meetings or think any cost cutting has gone too far?
I wonder if they ever run out of F&B at IAG board meetings or think any cost cutting has gone too far?
#32
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
If only things had been that simple for the OP ........
#33
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: LONDON
Posts: 415
But it's not just lounges and White Company bedding is it? They are also (too slowly I admit) rolling out new catering - which is exactly what this thread is about. So things are changing. Slowly, yes. But they are changing - and from the comments I've read about the new catering - getting better (very slowly) by the day. Let's hope they fully roll out the catering improvements and don't cut costs.
#34
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 6
I think one of the problems is that most people will have had breakfast at their hotel before heading for the airport. Last time I took this flight breakfast was served very soon after take off and a lot of people declined it as they had only just eaten...then a couple of hours later they found themselves hungry.
I did notice a lot of people in J were attacking the Club Kitchen like they had never seen a chocolate bar since before the war, and took handfuls for their families.
But there was no problem with drinks if you rang your call bell.
On some long flights from LHR they serve two hot means and a mid-flight cold tray and a drink. Maybe BA should be looking at offering this service on the MRU daylight flight.
...or at least suggest to passengers to take something from the breakfast service...a croissant or some fruit, and save it for later when they might become peckish?
I did notice a lot of people in J were attacking the Club Kitchen like they had never seen a chocolate bar since before the war, and took handfuls for their families.
But there was no problem with drinks if you rang your call bell.
On some long flights from LHR they serve two hot means and a mid-flight cold tray and a drink. Maybe BA should be looking at offering this service on the MRU daylight flight.
...or at least suggest to passengers to take something from the breakfast service...a croissant or some fruit, and save it for later when they might become peckish?
#36
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Singapore
Programs: BA Gold. KrisFlyer Gold
Posts: 732
Replacing the Club Kitchen with a mid-flight snack menu would be a step to real improvement in the Club World experience. I've never found anything more available other than Cadbury's chocolate, popcorn, and some apples - and that's often less than a couple of hours into the flight. Admittedly, I only travel in Club World infrequently. I'd be interested to know whether stock levels for snack foods and drinks differ between overnight and day flights in premium cabins, particularly around the club kitchen offering. It would be bizarre if tailoring of stock in this way was not taken into account.
#37
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,741
Yes, quite. I really don’t understand this arbitrary distinction between business CW routes and leisure CW routes (which are somehow seen as second class). Passengers have a right to expect the service on all CW to be the same...
#38
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
On the plus side, I read you had spirits and tonic water left? Works for me , I'll G & T my way through the next 6 hours PLEASE AND THANKS!
My first time flying BA was just yesterday, in Y, LHR-YYC and while I was pretty happy with the service I did wonder one thing though. I don't fly long haul that often and I've never really noted it before, except having just flown yesterday then reading this story it made me think. LHR-YYC is all day time, lunch was served fairly soon after take off, then a little sandwich box was given out towards the end of the 8:30 trip. But for the middle...5-6 hours I'd say, I THINK the crew dimmed all the windows. I noticed one person had the window clear for a while before the food (which bothered me cuz my TV was all glare, had to jam the safety card in as a blocker) then she was asked to darken it. I just assume since it's daytime at departure and at destination they darken the cabin just to avoid being pestered for service the entire flight. Is that the case? Or is there a bigger/better reason for it? I actually kinda like it, frankly I sleep on all flights for the most part, at least a portion of the flight, helps me pass the time, so having it be dark is easier, but after reading the OP post and having the crew do the disappearing act, it made me think.
#39
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NW London and NW Sydney
Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G
Posts: 6,344
I think one of the problems is that most people will have had breakfast at their hotel before heading for the airport. Last time I took this flight breakfast was served very soon after take off and a lot of people declined it as they had only just eaten...then a couple of hours later they found themselves hungry.
I would expect the majority of passengers in a J cabin to eat something in the lounge and therefore not be desperate for food until 4-5 hours after takeoff.
I did MCT-LHR in WTP recently and with a 0900 departure, I had a reasonable breakfast in the lounge and the main reason why I did eat the breakfast served at 1000 (MCT time) was that I knew nothing would be forthcoming at lunchtime except for popcorn and crisps (and they didn't even have enough for everyone).
#40
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Kazakhstan
Programs: BA Gold, AirAstana Silver (much use as chocolate teapot)
Posts: 867
#41
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,222
The next time you see someone in the lounge stuffing a few bags of crisps into their carry on reflect upon this thread.
They may be as considerate as myself in ensuring those in CW who didn't have time to visit the lounge are not competing with me at the Club Kitchen.
They may be as considerate as myself in ensuring those in CW who didn't have time to visit the lounge are not competing with me at the Club Kitchen.
#42
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,347
The Club Kitchen is embarrassing. Compared to AA it's a complete joke - they set up what is essentially a buffet, with a range of appetising looking sandwiches and wraps, cheeses, desserts and other snacks. I noticed on my most recent flight that people were up and down making good use of this but there was still plenty of food available. Even on the night flight, they still had plenty of snacks on offer. Whoever is in charge of Club Kitchen should be made to take one of these flights, then a CW one, and then try to justify their pathetic offering.
#43
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL/CR; Hilton Diamond; Mucci des Puccis
Posts: 5,609
The one thing an airline can do at relatively low cost that makes an airline stand out is good catering. It's one of the perceived value adds, that comes through in many threads here.
I remember being delighted because Virgin gave me a choc ice in the second half of a transatlantic flight - cost to them would be pennies, but it kept me jumping through loops for business bookings (in economy) to fly Virgin for quite a lengthy period. I guess someone has the overall catering budget and stocking levels as KPIs and they're shaving whatever they can off that. Very short-sighted. You could stick double the average cost of the food onto a CW ticket and virtually no one would complain (if the food was good).
I remember being delighted because Virgin gave me a choc ice in the second half of a transatlantic flight - cost to them would be pennies, but it kept me jumping through loops for business bookings (in economy) to fly Virgin for quite a lengthy period. I guess someone has the overall catering budget and stocking levels as KPIs and they're shaving whatever they can off that. Very short-sighted. You could stick double the average cost of the food onto a CW ticket and virtually no one would complain (if the food was good).
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#44
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampere
Programs: BA EC Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,237
Funnily enough, this is a highly-contentious topic. Time to kill? Make yourself a bowl of popcorn and search for 'window shades, open or closed?'
#45
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Singapore - the hot, little red dot
Programs: BA, SQ
Posts: 861
The Club Kitchen is embarrassing. Compared to AA it's a complete joke - they set up what is essentially a buffet, with a range of appetising looking sandwiches and wraps, cheeses, desserts and other snacks. I noticed on my most recent flight that people were up and down making good use of this but there was still plenty of food available. Even on the night flight, they still had plenty of snacks on offer. Whoever is in charge of Club Kitchen should be made to take one of these flights, then a CW one, and then try to justify their pathetic offering.
CWs food, if you get there in time, is at least individually wrapped which I prefer.
Long gone are the days when club kitchen was first introduced and there was such a large and plentiful selection... sitting in 64A and having a full selection of food right in front of you was bliss