IAG to close Open Skies & establish Level base at ORY
Nov 28, 2017, 3:09 am
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IAG to close Open Skies & establish Level base at ORY
It is being reported that IAG is to close Open Skies in Paris, and start a new Level hub in Paris Orly. Staff will transfer from Open Skies to Level
Nov 28, 2017, 3:13 am
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One of a couple of articles:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-airline-level
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-airline-level
"We believe long-haul, low-cost routes can be profitable," Walsh said. Level will progressively replace the ‘Open Skies’ brand and operate out of Paris’s Orly airport.
Nov 28, 2017, 3:15 am
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And the IAG press release: http://www.iairgroup.com/phoenix.zht...cle&ID=2318756
Nov 28, 2017, 3:18 am
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Nov 28, 2017, 4:04 am
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Nov 28, 2017, 4:37 am
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I did wonder about this when I say the Level - Paris announcement.
I wonder if they will carry on using JFK or will opt for a cheaper airport and if so BA can use those slots for more London flights given the plan to retire the 747s and the reduction in seats?
I wonder if they will carry on using JFK or will opt for a cheaper airport and if so BA can use those slots for more London flights given the plan to retire the 747s and the reduction in seats?
Nov 28, 2017, 4:37 am
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Are Level flights covered by through fares anyway when connecting from BA flights to BCN? If not then I can't imagine the lack of BA flights to ORY from LHR is really an issue.
Nov 28, 2017, 4:42 am
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With only 2 Level aircraft involved I'm not sure that the connecting traffic will really amount to very much?
Nov 28, 2017, 4:43 am
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Other routes -
- Flights to Montreal start on July 2, 2018 and operate three times per week.
- Flights to Guadeloupe start on July 3, 2018 and operate four times per week.
- Flights to Martinique start on September 3, 2018 and operate three times per week.
- Flights to New York (Newark) start on September 4, 2018 and operate four times per week.
Nov 28, 2017, 4:45 am
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Shame - in the sense that I personally loved Openskies, with food and service often being superior to CW and negating the need for a connection.
That being said, I've been on a couple of flights where there's only been myself and a couple of others in paid J, with the rest of the cabin filled by invol upgrades, which can't be healthy on a peak Thursday evening.
That being said, I've been on a couple of flights where there's only been myself and a couple of others in paid J, with the rest of the cabin filled by invol upgrades, which can't be healthy on a peak Thursday evening.
Nov 28, 2017, 2:51 pm
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Level... very much not Oneworld and so a complete lack of alliance benefits for frequent travellers replaces Openskies, a Oneworld affiliate.
Would BA even do interline connections to Level at Orly? They flatly refuse to interline to Vueling, the other IAG very-low-cost carrier.
Not an improvement for any frequent traveller.
Would BA even do interline connections to Level at Orly? They flatly refuse to interline to Vueling, the other IAG very-low-cost carrier.
Not an improvement for any frequent traveller.
Nov 28, 2017, 3:15 pm
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the press release mentions connections on VY. That seems to be the intended pairing: low cost with low cost I think.
Nov 28, 2017, 3:16 pm
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