Why 80 TPs for HEL, LED, and only 40 for TLL
Nov 24, 2017, 6:22 am
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Why 80 TPs for HEL, LED, and only 40 for TLL
I am soon flying to TLL on a fully-flex J ticket, and noticed it is only good for 40 TPs. I find this strange and inconsistent when HEL, which is only 25 miles north of TLL, and LED, 20 or so minutes further are both good for 80 TPs.
Is there any reason for this? My trip is strictly business and any TPs are incidental, nonetheless I do wonder if there is a reason for such inconsistency?
Is there any reason for this? My trip is strictly business and any TPs are incidental, nonetheless I do wonder if there is a reason for such inconsistency?
Nov 24, 2017, 6:32 am
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I guess the cutoff has to be somewhere. I'm no expert, but from Your guide to the Executive Club, attaining status and earning Avios | 2017 edition if you look at the TP explanation, it shows the Club Europe 40/80 point cut-off being approx 1,250 miles. Perhaps the TLL route falls just short of that?
Nov 24, 2017, 6:32 am
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There isn't a fixed threshold for short haul + routes, to the extent you could suggest one it may be around the 1050-1150 miles range.
HEL is slightly longer than TLL at 1,134 miles vs 1,106 miles - and also with HEL there is a joint business agreement with AY which may have some bearing on the level of TPs. HEL is the shortest LHR route to get the upgraded TPs.
There are actually two other LHR routes longer than TLL which also get 40 TPs only, PMO and BDS.
HEL is slightly longer than TLL at 1,134 miles vs 1,106 miles - and also with HEL there is a joint business agreement with AY which may have some bearing on the level of TPs. HEL is the shortest LHR route to get the upgraded TPs.
There are actually two other LHR routes longer than TLL which also get 40 TPs only, PMO and BDS.
Nov 24, 2017, 7:20 am
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Is there a threshold for long haul? Per Great Circle HKG and CPT are both 5,995 from LHR, however CPT gets the higher LH+ band and so I am set to earn 40 TP more on a CW return on my trip to South Africa next week, 320 vs 280.
Nov 24, 2017, 7:22 am
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It should be above 2000 gets long haul and above 6000 gets long haul +. Are you using the mileage figures from the BAEC calculator? These may differ from gcmap.
Nov 24, 2017, 7:55 am
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They do! BAEC uses 5979 for HKG and 6019 for CPT. It is going to be my longest BA flight actually. I did EZE a few years back ('08) on BA but that stopped somewhere in Brazil first (was it Sao Paolo?). I've done direct to SIN but that was on SQ.
Nov 24, 2017, 9:44 am
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There is no precise reason why HEL does and TLL doesn't. I suspect it's to do with the newness of the TLL route, it's easier not to add something than to take it away, if you see what I mean. Plus the AY partner factor as KARFA suggested. Similarly, half of Sicily counts but the other doesn't.
Nov 24, 2017, 12:15 pm
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One can frequently get a route to or via ...-LHR-SIN-HKG-... instead of ...LHR-HKG, pushing the long haul into 6000+ miles and adding another short haul. It's always worth checking.