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‘FLUB’ class: travel in First (F) cabin but with Club (J) service on 4-class aircraft

‘FLUB’ class: travel in First (F) cabin but with Club (J) service on 4-class aircraft

Old Aug 3, 2019, 9:29 am
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I am also booked on the BA461 but in November. When I checked seat availability earlier this week it offered me the option to pay (GBP24 from memory) for a seat in row 2 or 4 (strange layout shown on seatplan) which I determined are F seats. I thought I'd pay the extra seat cost (other Club seats were cheaper) in the hope rather than expectation of it sticking. We've got 4F and 4K (and showing as taken in EF) but it took a bit of figuring out how to get those due to the strange seatplan displayed. If it sticks then great - if not then I'll expect my seat selection fee back!
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Old Aug 3, 2019, 1:59 pm
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The ability to pre-allocate the F cabin seats on the 460/461 MAD 777 is essentially a glitch- all passengers from rows 1-4 get thrown back into rows 10-15 at between -72 and -24 hrs before the flight. You then run the risk of not getting your preferred seats in the standard CW Cabin. I’m not sure that BA knows what it is doing when allocating these seats.

We recently flew to MAD and back on the 777. Going out, we had seats in row 2 preallocated on a 4 class 777 but the plane changed to a 3 class 777 about 20 hours per-flight. Coming back, again we had row 2 pre-allocated and although it remained a 4 class 777, we got booted out to row 11 at t-36 or so. The F cabin remained empty for the flight. The agent noted on our booking that should they have re-opened it, we should regain our original row 2 seats but to be honest I’m somewhat sceptical that it would have ended that way.
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Old Aug 14, 2019, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Jed
The ability to pre-allocate the F cabin seats on the 460/461 MAD 777 is essentially a glitch- all passengers from rows 1-4 get thrown back into rows 10-15 at between -72 and -24 hrs before the flight. You then run the risk of not getting your preferred seats in the standard CW Cabin. I’m not sure that BA knows what it is doing when allocating these seats.
I’ve just booked a flight for November and I was getting quite excited about having been pre-assigned to 1K...
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Old Aug 21, 2019, 6:14 am
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We’re currently booked BA460 early October, seated in 10J/K and while reading this thread I guess there’s not much else to do but wait and try while checking in (online or airport)? Obviously it’s all very much of a first world problem however seats in First would be nice...
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Old Oct 1, 2019, 3:49 pm
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This is me in 1K in November.

Any recent reports? Shall I stay where I am or move myself back?

I asked the Indian call centre tonight and the representative guaranteed that everything was fine and I was going to get that seat, but I wouldn’t take her word for certain.
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Old Oct 2, 2019, 12:14 am
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Originally Posted by ringingup

This is me in 1K in November.

Any recent reports? Shall I stay where I am or move myself back?

I asked the Indian call centre tonight and the representative guaranteed that everything was fine and I was going to get that seat, but I wouldn’t take her word for certain.
Things can always change. I am flying on the route on Friday and was bumped out of Flub yesterday and now selected a seat in Club.

We‘ll see if they open up F again or not.
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Old Oct 16, 2019, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by ringingup
This is me in 1K in November.
I notice from this seat map, and also the maps I was looking at for a couple of dates in December, that it's the 56J Rows 10-16 config of the B777-300.

I'm wondering how more J (and W) seats will affect the chances of a FLUB. Is the 773 going to be a permanent fixture on this rotation ?
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Old Oct 16, 2019, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by Oxon Flyer
I notice from this seat map, and also the maps I was looking at for a couple of dates in December, that it's the 56J Rows 10-16 config of the B777-300.

I'm wondering how more J (and W) seats will affect the chances of a FLUB. Is the 773 going to be a permanent fixture on this rotation ?
773 is (and has been for a least a few years) a permanent fixture for the winter schedule. I guess anyone who flew it last year may be able to chime in on the chances of FLUB compared to the 772 in the summer season?
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Old Oct 16, 2019, 12:02 pm
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Thanks, I've never been brave enough to do an DYKWIA and ask for my CIV :-)

Very British 😂.

My northern UK partner was served a meal she didn’t order last week (at a restaurant with friends)and didn’t say a word till after we left, knowing had she, my non UK sensibilities would have caused a minor scene.

I do ask every few months. I suspect she doesn’t even know CIV exists.. I handle this part of our relationship; she handles the more relevant banking 👌🏻
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Old Oct 16, 2019, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by nshep

Just to feedback my FLUB experience for some data points. I successfully got FLUB’ed on yesterday’s 777 rotation from Madrid (461) it was my first time sitting in F seat and it has made my partner very annoyed as we booked our ‘first first’ for July this year together (SJC outbound and JFK inbound) and I’ve taken 14 photos so I can send one a day for next two weeks so he does not forget this 😂

You're my new favourite FT’r. That is completely my M.O; we just had friends from Peak District visit us in Asia, from D-14 I sent a photo to tease them.
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Old Oct 17, 2019, 8:20 pm
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LGW-ANU Antigua 22nd NOV. They do not sell F on this route, but club is the standard 4 class row 10-15. Assuming this is a 4 class LGW 777 being used. We are both silver but travelling on different tickets because of domestic connections. How if ever, would the F cabin become avaliable to select for F-LUB? Many thanks for any advice
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by flyingscotsman
LGW-ANU Antigua 22nd NOV. They do not sell F on this route, but club is the standard 4 class row 10-15. Assuming this is a 4 class LGW 777 being used. We are both silver but travelling on different tickets because of domestic connections. How if ever, would the F cabin become avaliable to select for F-LUB? Many thanks for any advice
Several conditions need to apply the first one is that BA decide to open the seating up due to club being full either due to potential overcooking in club or premium economy, use expertflyer to see if this is the case. That decision is normally seen somewhere between t-72 and t-24. You may then find that you get moved forward.

Because it takes extra crew BA will only do it if they have to and some people have lost treasured seats in club when BA decide they don't need to open up the cabin at the last moment, those people get put back into club, however their original seats have been taken by others.

Who is allowed to sit in F is up for debate, if you have gold status you probably will, however sometimes it seems a bit random. Phoning to ask doesn't seem to work but selection at airport check-in seems to be possible for some.

Good luck!
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Old Oct 20, 2019, 4:17 am
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Aircraft change a while ago from a 3 class 787 from YYZ to a 4 Class 787 that is now showing the 8 seats as greyed out with x’s in the on the seat map on seat selection map for CW
I assume this FLUB
CW showing lots of availability I think. Why would BA either not sell F or switch the aircraft out and not use the original 3 class. Which I quite like btw
and what are chances of FLUB being offered as a seat
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Old Oct 24, 2019, 9:13 am
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As the 3-class 777-200er 48J fleet at LHR is currently just 4 aircraft: G-YMM* A/R/T/U seems like more of 3-class LHR 772 routes (except BKK BA 9/10 and EZE BA 244/245!) are being served by four class aircraft.
LHR-BLR (Ba119) and LHR-GCM (BA 253) seem to be getting more than 50% 4 class aircraft last few weeks.
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 1:50 am
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Originally Posted by alexwuk
As the 3-class 777-200er 48J fleet at LHR is currently just 4 aircraft: G-YMM* A/R/T/U seems like more of 3-class LHR 772 routes (except BKK BA 9/10 and EZE BA 244/245!) are being served by four class aircraft.
LHR-BLR (Ba119) and LHR-GCM (BA 253) seem to be getting more than 50% 4 class aircraft last few weeks.
Seems as though 4 of these is now the most LHR will ever have, with MMA and MMS due to swap places later this year. Looks like BLR is still going to an A350 in January so maybe this will reduce the chances of a 4-class randomly appearing on these routes. Wondering if FLUB on these longer routes works the same way as it does for MAD?
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