Aer Lingus has 'no plans' to rejoin oneworld [proposes entering JV with AA/BA etc]
Nov 17, 2017, 5:05 pm
#16
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Irish Independent article quotes the answer as "We have no plans to join oneworld. We still have to do the business case for joining oneworld.”
The second sentence appears to directly contradict the first. A reader of my blog pointed out to me that Virgin Atlantic is in the JV with Delta/SkyTeam so there is precedent for joining a JV without being an alliance member.
The second sentence appears to directly contradict the first. A reader of my blog pointed out to me that Virgin Atlantic is in the JV with Delta/SkyTeam so there is precedent for joining a JV without being an alliance member.
Nov 18, 2017, 3:26 am
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You’ve expressed that position before, but I’ve never been able to corroborate it. Do you have access to non public policy information? Or is it a clause buried somewhere in a DoJ memo or Commission statement?
Nov 18, 2017, 6:25 am
#18
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I would have to look closely at what I might receive in terms of FF status benefits and earn in TPs and Avios in the event that I ever think about flying EI.
Nov 18, 2017, 7:54 am
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I’m delighted with the new SEA route, as I can now get to the west coast, and onwards without having to schlep through LHR and with the added bonus of pre-clearance at DUB. It matters not whether EI are in or out of OW as far as I am concerned.
Nov 19, 2017, 11:52 pm
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Isn’t Level part of the JBA?
Nov 20, 2017, 12:50 am
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Otherwise if booked on EI flight number you earn avios but no TP and no tier bonus.
Nov 20, 2017, 1:06 am
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Couldn't you get to the west coast before using EI's LAX/SFO services?
Nov 20, 2017, 2:38 am
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If it is (and I can only find one unsubstantiated blog post* saying that it is), then maybe it is because, for now, they are unable to hide the fact from regulators that, for at least as long as it uses Iberia's AOC, it is effectively Iberia-in-disguise, and therefore they may be required by law to "participate".
*that blog post also points out the fact that this would mean that customers on AA, Finnair, BA, etc, are all subsidising Level customers. But even the idea that Level should participate in revenue sharing and price-fixing with these "high fares" airlines seems to conflict with its "low fares" design.
*that blog post also points out the fact that this would mean that customers on AA, Finnair, BA, etc, are all subsidising Level customers. But even the idea that Level should participate in revenue sharing and price-fixing with these "high fares" airlines seems to conflict with its "low fares" design.
Nov 20, 2017, 1:21 pm
#26
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If it is (and I can only find one unsubstantiated blog post* saying that it is), then maybe it is because, for now, they are unable to hide the fact from regulators that, for at least as long as it uses Iberia's AOC, it is effectively Iberia-in-disguise, and therefore they may be required by law to "participate".
*that blog post also points out the fact that this would mean that customers on AA, Finnair, BA, etc, are all subsidising Level customers. But even the idea that Level should participate in revenue sharing and price-fixing with these "high fares" airlines seems to conflict with its "low fares" design.
*that blog post also points out the fact that this would mean that customers on AA, Finnair, BA, etc, are all subsidising Level customers. But even the idea that Level should participate in revenue sharing and price-fixing with these "high fares" airlines seems to conflict with its "low fares" design.
Nov 28, 2017, 1:17 pm
#27
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Why would EI wish to rejoin OW considering their current success? DUB-US/CANADA is fine as it stands. I have a problem with the lounge at SFO but its not a deal breaker.
The deal breaker for me is pre clearance.
if I had to consider anything differently (from an EI perspective) I would be looking at better integration of flights ex EU onto US with brexit looming.
The deal breaker for me is pre clearance.
if I had to consider anything differently (from an EI perspective) I would be looking at better integration of flights ex EU onto US with brexit looming.