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Old Oct 26, 2017, 11:18 am
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Phoned BA, put on hold. HUGE phone bill.

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Old Oct 26, 2017, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
BA gets the 7p a minute profit though! So they are making money from 0844 numbers when they really don't need to!
BA gets 7p
Phone company gets 43p

So who do you think is overcharging here? BA or the phone company?
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
From what I know no, as i always do this with banks, I never use the 03 numbers of Lloyds for example.
I think it's up to who you are calling to implement one or not.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by ringingup
Do they do any check on the geographical origin of the caller if you call the 012* number?
From what I recall they do, you can however swap the 08 for 03 and still get the BA Blue line (although I don't think BA make this clear).
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
BA gets 7p
Phone company gets 43p

So who do you think is overcharging here? BA or the phone company?
And let’s also remember that this 7p per minute does not even cover BA’s overheads for the call. (I know we can argue that status members get free calls and there is fee for offline bookings as well),
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by Tinseltown
But madfish... this is the thing. Some service numbers don't actually immediately go into the loop of hell! There is often a time where you just hear the phone ringing and sometimes it's combined with a message that they are busy, would you like to try later. You don't actually get charged anything for the wait!

It is wholly BA's choice to actually make the call 'LIVE' from the get-go.

This was during the time of that first hurricane in Florida. We weren't there, but were going to travel around that time, so had to call when loads of people were probably calling, too.
How many times did you call and how long were you on hold each time? If you keep hanging up and trying again you inevitably end up at the back of the queue each time.

Unless the call is just allowed to ring, I was under the impression as soon as it connects then you are going to be charged.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:07 am
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:09 am
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:09 am
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Gotta love the US toll free number system. Most companies with call centers will have a toll free number and it doesn't cost you anything. Many nowadays even offer you a call back, so they can save the charges they have to pay for you waiting on the toll free number.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
No in this case the phone company gets 43 p for the whole call, BA gets 7 p a minute!

So it actually benefits them to have customers on hold as much as possible haha!
In the OP's case he/she seems to have been charged 50 per minute though and that's the subject of this thread. In the OP's case as noted BA 7p per minute, phone company 43p per minute.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by madfish
And let’s also remember that this 7p per minute does not even cover BA’s overheads for the call. (I know we can argue that status members get free calls and there is fee for offline bookings as well),
You could also argue that the product you have paid for / are paying for covers the overheads for this as well. @:-)
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:12 am
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:12 am
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These call charges and call centres with English as their 3rd language are an insult to pax.

Another Brit co., BT who also have CS problems, now have all their call centres in or moving to their country of call, and use freephone numbers.

Both BA and BT are large Pension funds with a little business attached, so no reason for BA to be worse.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by madfish
And let’s also remember that this 7p per minute does not even cover BA’s overheads for the call. (I know we can argue that status members get free calls and there is fee for offline bookings as well),
Oh come on, you can’t be serious!

Leaving aside a Ł35 per person, per change fee for......telephone bookings or changes (!), why on earth should each phone call have to wash its face?! Isn’t that what the base fare is for?

What next, a charge for the fuel in the aircraft (oops, bad example).

Talk about drinking the unbundling Kool Aid
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:20 am
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Presumably there is a geographic alternative to the 0844 number, no? A non-premium number has to be provided for post-sales service numbers in the UK and the Exec Club number would certainly fall within that definition so a non-0844 number has to be provided too and given the same prominence as the 0844 number.
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