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X Factor contestants flying ex-EU to judges houses

Old Oct 21, 2017, 3:00 pm
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X Factor contestants flying ex-EU to judges houses

X-Factor on tv right now. Contestants sent to rainy Dublin for judges houses, then only told there they are going to SFO instead, business class on Air Lingus. Made me smile... BA probably too cheap to offer sponsorship for flights out of Heathrow
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 3:05 pm
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You should have been watching Strictly on the other side ....

Why sponsor the X Factor when you can have Anton onboard, eh ?
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 3:24 pm
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You should have been watching Strictly on the other side ....
Interesting to see product placement on the BBC! Even if it was the old WT and WTP cabins...
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 3:39 pm
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I don’t think that the general public would notice this, our training mockups don’t have our new seats fitted.
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Originally Posted by above the clouds
.. BA probably too cheap to offer sponsorship for flights out of Heathrow
More likely that BA refused to pay what the production company demanded to be on the show in addition to the cost of the flights for the contestants and production crew.

They would have shopped around until they found an airline stupid enough to cough up the cash they demanded.

As to Strictly yes it was BA staff etc but unless you knew the uniform etc you wouldn't necessarilly know it was BA and might think they were actors on a BBC set.
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by above the clouds
X-Factor on tv right now. Contestants sent to rainy Dublin for judges houses, then only told there they are going to SFO instead, business class on Air Lingus. Made me smile... BA probably too cheap to offer sponsorship for flights out of Heathrow
Aer Lingus saw a good PR chance and grabbed it. I do not remember seeing anything like that for BA recently.
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 4:44 pm
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then only told there they are going to SFO
wont they have needed to apply for work visas or do things like X factor not count?
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 4:56 pm
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X-Factor on tv right now. Contestants sent to rainy Dublin for judges houses, then only told there they are going to SFO instead, business class on Air Lingus. Made me smile... BA probably too cheap to offer sponsorship for flights out of Heathrow
So technically they did go to Dublin - Dublin CA!

it's definitely a bit misleading though, there's no way they wouldn't have been aware they were going to the US, as they would have had to get visas in order. They probably qualify for a B1 Visa Waiver but they would still need ESTAs and other people cannot (well, should not) apply for those in your behalf.
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 5:20 pm
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but they would still need ESTAs and other people cannot (well, should not) apply for those in your behalf.
Ok according to the rules and lots of tour groups/travel agents do it for clients.


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Old Oct 21, 2017, 5:30 pm
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Ah, one of my favourite programmes of the year.

Reviewing the flights segment on ITV Player...

(i) At 3.16 to 3.28 the boys are delighted to see that they are flying to Istanbul when they are next to a large sign saying Turkish Airlines (although to be fair they could have thought that they might be connecting and at 3.30 to 3.33 the gentleman explains that he does not know where Istanbul is)

(ii) 4.19 - what is the passport?

(iii) 4.25 - boarding from the back of the plane - remote stand on a between service aircraft?

(iv) 4.33 - note that hi-viz jacket in the background - ground agent?

(v) 4.26 to 4.34 - I note that no other passengers appear to be in the cabin

(vi) 4.35 to 4.36 - note the sunshine then the rain are not consistent

(vii) 4.44 to 5.11 - note the Aer Lingus banners, models and general nice soft furnishings and wood - it does not look like a lounge - Aer Lingus HQ?

(viii) 5.14 to 5.24 - the contestants are enjoying business class but note that the lady enjoying the inboard right hand side seat at 5.16 (i.e. the left from the perspective of the camera) is not the same lady who is enjoying the same seat at 5.18

I love watching the X Factor for the editing, but they have dropped the ball here and it looks too contrived.

For the avoidance of doubt I am sure the contestants all had the time of their lives and I am not in any way discussing them, just the editing.
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 6:35 pm
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Sixth Freedom
(iv) 4.33 - note that hi-viz jacket in the background - ground agent?
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by kyanar
So technically they did go to Dublin - Dublin CA!

it's definitely a bit misleading though, there's no way they wouldn't have been aware they were going to the US, as they would have had to get visas in order. They probably qualify for a B1 Visa Waiver but they would still need ESTAs and other people cannot (well, should not) apply for those in your behalf.
They do need an ESTA but you can in theory apply for this online right up to a few hours before your flight. I doubt they did this though as it is risky + if any of the contestants have criminal records they wouldn't be able to go. I imagine they sorted all that stuff out well in advance.

I actually realised the day before a flight to the US that my ESTA had expired and went to apply online. The ESTA site was offline for maintenance and was not due back up until right before my flight! Thankfully it came back up early, I applied and received approval 2-3 hours before my flight. Even then, the American Airlines staff couldn't see it on their system and didn't want to let me fly. Thankfully it came into their system after a few mins and I was all good. I will be very careful to never make that mistake again.
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 7:50 pm
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They do need an ESTA but you can in theory apply for this online right up to a few hours before your flight. I doubt they did this though as it is risky + if any of the contestants have criminal records they wouldn't be able to go. I imagine they sorted all that stuff out well in advance.

I actually realised the day before a flight to the US that my ESTA had expired and went to apply online. The ESTA site was offline for maintenance and was not due back up until right before my flight! Thankfully it came back up early, I applied and received approval 2-3 hours before my flight. Even then, the American Airlines staff couldn't see it on their system and didn't want to let me fly. Thankfully it came into their system after a few mins and I was all good. I will be very careful to never make that mistake again.
TV shows often do a background check on contestants after a certain stage to check for anything that might otherwise surface, so a conviction would have been known about by the production company.
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 8:19 pm
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Contestants have had issues in the past with visas etc.

I believe Ivy was simply a visa-national and it wasnt approved in time: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/19/the-x-...ssues-6137487/

I do also recall another year in which a three member band had to leave someone behind as he couldnt go to the USA for judges houses. I believe he was British in that case so maybe refused for some other reason (criminal record, etc): http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/01/the-x-...ouses-4129583/

As an aside, it is quite unfair that they should lose their place on a British talent show because they cant enter the US. They could just as easily make that round in the UK if they wanted to - seems a bit cruel for someone who is talented to be denied the same opportunity as the other contestants because they cant get into a country that has nothing to do with the show.

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