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Bagging row 5 in First (747) - issue selecting seats... & 747 age question

Bagging row 5 in First (747) - issue selecting seats... & 747 age question

Old Aug 23, 17, 7:46 am
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Question Bagging row 5 in First (747) - issue selecting seats... & 747 age question

Is there a block on people booking 5A & 5E in F on a 747, i.e. to preserve the 'pairs' of seats in the middle for people travelling together? You click to select the seats, but check back a few minutes later and it's defaulted to the original 4E/F selection.

I've booked four of us to travel to LAS next summer on a 747, booking 2 tickets from my Gold account with a 241, and 2 tickets from my wife's blue account with a 241. My booking is for me and our son, my wife's is for her and our daughter.

We were trying to put our son in 5A, me and my wife in 5E/F and our daughter in 5K. They will only be aged 4 and 2 respectively, so we want to keep a close eye on them from both sides. ^

I've had to cheat the system and put me and my son in 5E/F (one booking) and my wife/daughter in 5A/K to make it accept the request. The cabin is totally empty currently... Just wondered if the computer is programmed to retain the central pair of seats for two people on the same booking?

And as an aside, people moan on here about the LAS Jumbos being "old". Are they any older than the Jumbos flying the DEN or PHX route? I do love a Jumbo, as the name suggests, but would love to see better IFE than we had to DEN last year! That was pretty archaic, but the rest of the cabin experience was pretty good.

We did look for returns for this trip from SFO or LAX on the A380 - but as I guess is common, there's never any availability for 4 seats. Does F ever come up on those routes on the big big bird?
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Old Aug 23, 17, 8:15 am
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5A is the bassinet position (it should show that on the map) and seat selection there is under the same process as other bassinets, so you may not be able to select this unless your children are very young. I think 2 years, particularly if it is a boy, is probably too old. But if the child is booked as a 10% toddler then with Contact Centre assistance you should be able to select it.

If it is a SuperJ 747 then the IFE will be updated, you'll have to check the other seat maps to see whether it is or not, however so far out anything could change. SuperJ don't normally go to LAS, DEN or PHX, but it has been known on occasion to happen.
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Old Aug 23, 17, 8:21 am
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What's a '10% toddler'??
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Old Aug 23, 17, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by Pascoe View Post
What's a '10% toddler'??
Travelling as a lap child, you pay 10% of the fare (I think).
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Old Aug 23, 17, 8:25 am
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Ahhh ok. Cheers. But in this case that's not what's happening presumably - as they're looking for seats for even the 2yo
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Old Aug 23, 17, 8:29 am
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What's a '10% toddler'??
An emerging cost centre.
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What's a '10% toddler'??
It's how my wife describes me to her friends.
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Old Aug 23, 17, 8:31 am
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Having just flown if F with an infant on a 747 I can confirm that seat 5F is the bassinet seat. This is in fact a shelf that fits across the front of the seat (above the food stool) on which a chair is placed. Does seem to offer slightly less room than the same version on the 777. The chair is a bit like a baby rocker seat that you are more likely to use with young babies. Crew are fairly unfamiliar with this. One claimed he'd never used it in 20 years.

I would also suggest not having all 4 of you in a straight line as more difficult to move around. If you take 4 in a square on one side you will have easier access to everybody in your party. Most useful if onebin your party is snoozing. Also means you are all. Ring served by same member of cabin crew so more consistent and you really are their priority as you represent 4/7 of their passengers.

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Old Aug 23, 17, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by madfish View Post
Having just flown if F with an infant on a 747 I can confirm that seat 5F is the bassinet seat. This is in fact a shelf that fits across the front of the seat (above the food stool) on which a chair is placed. Does seem to offer slightly less room than the same version on the 777. The chair is a bit like a baby rocker seat that you are more likely to use with young babies. Crew are fairly unfamiliar with this. One claimed he'd never used it in 20 years.
Agree, it's 5F, and they definitely don't know how to use it. Returning from Denver last August the MF crew claimed there wasn't one in the F cabin. I assured them there was, showed them the mounting points, but they refused to install it as they hadn't been trained. And despite the fact we'd chosen that seat on purpose. Instead they gave my then 10-month old 5K all to herself... A blessing in disguise, as my wife couldn't sleep for fear she'd roll off the seat and hurt herself (the baby, not my wife!)...

However, I don't think the bassinet location is anything to do with not being able to select 5A/E for one travelling couple on the same booking. No one can explain that system 'glitch' yet...? I genuinely think BA is protecting the centre seats for couples/pairs on the same booking?

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I would also suggest not having all 4 of you in a straight line as more difficult to move around. If you take 4 in a square on one side you will have easier access to everybody in your party. Most useful if onebin your party is snoozing. Also means you are all. Ring served by same member of cabin crew so more consistent and you really are their priority as you represent 4/7 of their passengers.
Interesting - had not considered that option. All I know is I want to be towards the rear of the cabin... Our first trip with my son when he was 1 proved a real pain as we were in 1A/K and it meant whenever we were dealing with him (crying or tantrum), we had the whole cabin watching. Much preferred row 5 last year, as when my 10-month old set off, I was one step away from the galley to minimise disruption for everyone else.

But hey, what am I saying, it will be sooooo much easier when they are 4 and 2, won't it?!?!
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Old Aug 23, 17, 2:44 pm
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I think 2 years, particularly if it is a boy, is probably too old.
Usually if I puzzle over a remark I can't parse for long enough, I come up with an answer.

But this one, not.

I hereby bite the bait and ask the question: what's the catch with a 2-year-old and their gender is it like pensions, with a different age limit depending on the gender of the passenger? Why is it particularly relevant when the infant is a boy?

Yours interestedly rather than pedantically, T.
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Old Aug 23, 17, 3:23 pm
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Was it reference to the fact that boys are usually bigger, and therefore less suitable for the little seat?
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Old Aug 23, 17, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Thomathy View Post
I hereby bite the bait and ask the question: what's the catch with a 2-year-old and their gender is it like pensions, with a different age limit depending on the gender of the passenger? Why is it particularly relevant when the infant is a boy?
Well I don't know what they put into Rusks these days (or Weetabix in the case of 14 year old rugby players that tower over me when I occasionally have to referee them) but the cots on the bassinets aren't overly generous size wise, and by the time a well nourished 2 year old lad gets into one it can look a bit of a tight fit and one wonders for the overall stability of the contraption. A one year old girl on the other hand would fit in nicely. I think the view of many cabin crew is that 2 year old boys are often too big.
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