Paralytic

If I am sitting in WTP I expect Champagne Sparkling Wine. When you do pay more to sit in WTP and enjoy all the extras that it comes with e.g better food, more room to relax and stretch out etc one of them extras is Champagne Sparkling Wine

itsmeitisss

I'd be happy to see some South African Cap Classique in Club. I have vintage Simonsig magnums that I paid less than Ł20 a bottle for. Better than quite a few champagnes.

A P Yu

Include a Saturday sale and book it in a sale and save half that money. I wouldn't pay more than Ł600-Ł650 for W to NYC if I were paying with my own dime.

They get away with charging extortionate prices to business travellers though as they know they can, with so many companies travel policies only permitting WT+ for flights of such length these days.

Its Economy with Legroom - Clue is in the name.

Padmeister

OK if that's what you want and expect of WTP

Paralytic

I edited my post to lower my expectations a little bit

itsmeitisss

You don't mind as long as it can help keep you Paralytic given the opportunity. [Sorry, couldn't resist]

HIDDY

What you or your employer paid for your ticket has nothing to do with it I'm afraid.

amt

Then what difference does it make what they're serving in the WT as long as the Business and First cabins have an ample supply of their own.

The lengths you go to to differentiate seem to indicate the enjoyment of it can only be had given knowledge of others being having been denied. In which case I suggest positioning your self as close to the curtain as possible and slurp loudly.

Argueably they're more entitled... from industry insight I've recieved WT+ is the most profitable seat on the plane.

Andriyko

Well, I am not a business traveller. The GBP 1,300 (incl taxes and fees) is the cheapest I can get WTP to NYC with BA (T class) if I stay a Sunday night. A sale (which we don't have often) usually reduces it by GBP150-200, but I have never seen fares to NYC from KBP for less than GBP1,000. I quite like WTP though. It is certainly Economy + rather than business - but it is a much better experience than WT (especially, since as a GCH I am almost guaranteed a pair of the seats on either side rather than two seats in the middle, unless I book too close to the departure). A welcome drink is a nice touch but as I am paying for space it is not a big deal for me (plus, I prefer prosecco to champagne)

Geordie405

Flying out of PHX recently in WT+ it was OJ or water from the tray, but I asked if there was some sparkling wine and was promptly offered a glass of champagne from Club. It was kept well topped up before departure too. After that I was offered wines from the Club wine list with dinner, as well as the cheese plate. The CC also asked me ahead of the service what meal I'd like in order to ensure there was one left for me (as I would be served second to last based on where I was sitting).

I know - absolutely shocking behaviour by the CC but who am I to complain

Flying back to LAS in WT+ we did get the usual three choices of sparkling wine, water and orange juice. I had the two bottles of prosecco that were on the bar cart and upon asking if there were any more (as I love to binge drink on flights as I don't have a car to pick up on arrival) I was told unfortunately not but offered champagne from Club yet again.

It's a tough life flying WT+ as a GCH sometimes!

nallison

Well it seems they are entitled to no as BA does offer it (sparkling wine) out of LHR and some outstations where possible?

I really don't get why because you don't fly in WT+ you want people who do to have something taken away so you can feel more special? Especially as, as someone noted, WT+ is far more profitable than first.

Other airlines serve it in Y, I'm not sure how you can possibly be annoyed about an airline offering something extra in a cabin? It's a nice gesture if you're in Y+, in higher cabins you get a bunch more bells and whistles that justify the much higher cost. A glass of champagne doesn't really come into it.

GlasgowCyclops

You missed the point completely there. IMHO

The price description was to show that it was a premium price.

jday

Yeah CC have told me that before on a lot of flights on WT+ return. I wonder if it's just only the 788/789 though. I've certainly had it on some return flights in WT+ but I haven't worked out if the aircraft is at fault or maybe some outstations have it chilled somewhere. It is a bit poor BA haven't found a way of chilling some bottles. Of all true modern technology on the aircraft and they haven't got a fridge.

Maybe I should bring a bottle from the lounge and serve the cabin - although I wouldn't want to be filmed and shamed on these forums for doing such an act!

IAMORGAN

It seems that it's as simple as the sparkling wine is loaded in London in a box not a bar so is warm for the return. Champagne is loaded into a refrigerated bar. BA don't want to pay more duty than they have to (to serve booze on the ground they have to pay duty) and the 1 duty paid champagne drawer is full of champagne so there's no space to put the sparkling wine.

Some stations have worked out a local solution whilst others haven't (I believe US is a sticking point as they have particularly fussy customs - note crew have to count stock in the bar for the paperwork to the US!) and some crew find a way to chill the sparkling wine but others can't or don't. Presumably once a few bottles of champagne have been opened for outbound PDB there is space in the PDB bar drawer for sparkling wine but then this depends on inbound crew realising it is there and logistics of getting it to WTP given crew have a short time from boarding to pax arriving to do security and equipment checks, work out why no special meals have been loaded or why all the First entrees have all been loaded in the WT galley and so on...this is all conjecture but the WT+ sparkling wine is probably quite low down the priorities list!

UncleDude

Stupid : Decent Sparkling Wine ex Singapore is 3 times more expensive than in OZ