Bye bye Brazilian cabin crew
#17
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When BA are making very healthy profits there's really no need to treat employees this way. Sadly we live in a time of greed, cutbacks and people with short term views/thinking about their own careers and bonuses etc. Not just BA but everywhere and it's the same elsewhere and also in the public sector too. That's my opinion anyhow.
#18
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I would stab at a guess that the issue lies in the fact that these crew serve a route that is one flight per day and can't be easily transferred to other operational areas if the needs of the business demand, but I really don't know enough about the business.
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#21
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I can't imagine BA would be interested in sponsoring Brazilian nationals for UK visas.
#22
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It's about time somebody enhanced the management team at BA.
#23
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Unfortunately most do not have access to a European passport, the majority of the Brazilian crew have over 20 years service and have families and would be unable to move to the UK, do BA care, well I will let you guess?
#24
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Is the absence of language-based rostering a contractual one? What stops your management from saying 'hey Can I help you, we have hired some quality crew from TAP, will retrain them in the art of creaming scones, and will roster them to LIS and GIG from now on'?
Maybe a moot point though if as BrianWBrazil states, the locals will happily have a British crew if they can pay a few Reals less...
#26
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Such a shame, I think all non-uk based crew know they are on death row.
The cost saving is minimal but the effect on a small number on crew members is huge. So pretty much the same thing that just happened in the U.S. military.
The cost saving is minimal but the effect on a small number on crew members is huge. So pretty much the same thing that just happened in the U.S. military.
#27
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This pretty much sums it up.. The people at the top are being asked to deliver increasing profits and as the market is saturated, the only way to increase profits short term is by cutting costs. People like AC/WW don't care about the long term anymore..Its all about short term gains, and it helps their bonuses as well. Once they have gutted a company enough, they will simply move on to another easily as they will have a proven track record of success, i.e. delivering profits which is all what matters to the majority of shareholders.
#28
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It didn't work though. Rostering stopped being effective after a while, they didn't get enough recruits and too many of this they had left (language speakers can earn more outside MF), and the proportions weren't right. Yet another good idea in theory poorly executed by BA and quietly abandoned. Of course in HND's case it became much more expensive for them eventually having to switch to WW, but there you go.
This is a huge shame. ICC are worth their weight in gold, and (apart from the general WW/MF differential) I don't see how they could be seen so cost-ineffective. It's not as if there's a huge admin cost, just a few positioning flights for SEP and a couple of base managers. They will be missed.
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