Minimum Connection Time Issue
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MCT is nothing more than a carrier's willingness to accept the risks of a misconnect which, in this case, includes EC 261/2004 delay. But, OP is stuck with his TA's insistence and unless he can convince the TA otherwise, he is completely stuck. OTA's have all of these metrics on their internal systems. Agents, who are low-level and not trained in handling sophisticated issues, are trained to follow what they see on their screen. If the TA's internal system shows X, then X is the MCT.
Notwithstanding MCT, this connection is certainly outside SCT (Sensible Connection Time). If OP misconnects, he will, of course be rebooked, but that may be in a lousy seat and it may very well present OP with the truly lousy choice of waiting for the next service with J availability or accepting a rotten Y seat on the later CX service.
While the TA has certainly done OP a technical disservice, it may have done him a creature comfort service.
Notwithstanding MCT, this connection is certainly outside SCT (Sensible Connection Time). If OP misconnects, he will, of course be rebooked, but that may be in a lousy seat and it may very well present OP with the truly lousy choice of waiting for the next service with J availability or accepting a rotten Y seat on the later CX service.
While the TA has certainly done OP a technical disservice, it may have done him a creature comfort service.
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MCT is nothing more than a carrier's willingness to accept the risks of a misconnect which, in this case, includes EC 261/2004 delay. But, OP is stuck with his TA's insistence and unless he can convince the TA otherwise, he is completely stuck. OTA's have all of these metrics on their internal systems. Agents, who are low-level and not trained in handling sophisticated issues, are trained to follow what they see on their screen. If the TA's internal system shows X, then X is the MCT.
Notwithstanding MCT, this connection is certainly outside SCT (Sensible Connection Time). If OP misconnects, he will, of course be rebooked, but that may be in a lousy seat and it may very well present OP with the truly lousy choice of waiting for the next service with J availability or accepting a rotten Y seat on the later CX service.
While the TA has certainly done OP a technical disservice, it may have done him a creature comfort service.
Notwithstanding MCT, this connection is certainly outside SCT (Sensible Connection Time). If OP misconnects, he will, of course be rebooked, but that may be in a lousy seat and it may very well present OP with the truly lousy choice of waiting for the next service with J availability or accepting a rotten Y seat on the later CX service.
While the TA has certainly done OP a technical disservice, it may have done him a creature comfort service.
The problem was the TA was trying to rebook the LHR-HKG flight whereas the OP much preferred to rebook the BUD-LHR instead. This seems to be the point on which the OP is struggling with the TA.
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Hi..as per my knowledge MCT is nothing more than a carrier's willingness to accept the risks of a misconnect which, in this case, includes EC 261/2004 delay. But, OP is stuck with his TA's insistence and unless he can convince the TA otherwise, he is completely stuck. OTA's have all of these metrics on their internal systems.
You are right about MCT. Unfortunately due to the retimed arrival from BUD the connection here does fall below MCT so there is no choice but to rebook either the arriving or departing flight, it can't be left with a connection under MCT. Which of the two flights gets changed is what the OP is struggling with the TA unfortunately.
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Welcome to FT!
You are right about MCT. Unfortunately due to the retimed arrival from BUD the connection here does fall below MCT so there is no choice but to rebook either the arriving or departing flight, it can't be left with a connection under MCT. Which of the two flights gets changed is what the OP is struggling with the TA unfortunately.
You are right about MCT. Unfortunately due to the retimed arrival from BUD the connection here does fall below MCT so there is no choice but to rebook either the arriving or departing flight, it can't be left with a connection under MCT. Which of the two flights gets changed is what the OP is struggling with the TA unfortunately.
Now the TA won't action any changes without having to pay on top, this is the problem with off shore call centres, there has been things lost in translation. I asked the agent to NOT confirm the ticket but she went ahead and reissued it with the misconnect.
I guess I will just take the flight and let the airline sort it out on the day, frustrated!
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Now the TA won't action any changes without having to pay on top, this is the problem with off shore call centres, there has been things lost in translation. I asked the agent to NOT confirm the ticket but she went ahead and reissued it with the misconnect.
I guess I will just take the flight and let the airline sort it out on the day, frustrated!
I guess I will just take the flight and let the airline sort it out on the day, frustrated!
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If you miss the onward flight- I'm assuming CX would refer you back to the agent. I don't think they would just rebook you. It had been ticketed with a deliberate under connection which violates any rights you have. If it was the other way round- that's what the BA agents would do. Best to get it sorted before travel
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If you miss the onward flight- I'm assuming CX would refer you back to the agent. I don't think they would just rebook you. It had been ticketed with a deliberate under connection which violates any rights you have. If it was the other way round- that's what the BA agents would do. Best to get it sorted before travel
Finally got the agent to rebook it but the LHR to HKG leg, I have a lovely 6 hour wait at Heathrow to get pissed in the CX lounge and arrive later than wanted.
No more schedule changes please
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Is it a BA or CX ticket? If CX, you could have used one of the new LH Group codeshares as your feeder to a LH Group Hub (FRA/ZRH etc) and onto CX from there.
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I don't understand what you are advising? The new timing was no longer MCT compliant and the TA had recognised that- it is noted in post 1.
The problem was the TA was trying to rebook the LHR-HKG flight whereas the OP much preferred to rebook the BUD-LHR instead. This seems to be the point on which the OP is struggling with the TA.
The problem was the TA was trying to rebook the LHR-HKG flight whereas the OP much preferred to rebook the BUD-LHR instead. This seems to be the point on which the OP is struggling with the TA.
I certainly hope that OP achieved substantial savings by booking with an opaque third-party vendor.