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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by kosy91
Can someone please check BA143 LHR-DEL 23Dec for me? Want to figure out the likehood of redemption bookings opening up or upgrades

thanks
Here you are...

BA 143
LHR 23/12/18 11:15
DEL 24/12/18 1:15
777
Daily
74% / 25m
F2 A1 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
Here you are...

BA 143
LHR 23/12/18 11:15
DEL 24/12/18 1:15
777
Daily
74% / 25m
F2 A1 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
thanks, I cans see that it’s sold out bar a few seats here and there so avios upgrade chances are nil.

what’s 74% and 25m ?
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by kosy91
what’s 74% and 25m ?
AFAIK that is the percentage of flights on that route that are on time... in this case 74%

The 25m is the average delay when it is late.

These figures are for the previous 2 months
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 4:25 am
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Can someone look at today's (22nd Dec) LHR-SIN BA11? I have a sinking feeling it's overbooked in all three higher cabins... :-/
Thanks!
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by mmxbreaks
Can someone look at today's (22nd Dec) LHR-SIN BA11? I have a sinking feeling it's overbooked in all three higher cabins... :-/
Thanks!
It is full in all classes!

F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Edit: Just looked at the other LHR - SIN flights and they are nearly all full in all classes. There might be some availability on BA7008/QR946 via DOH departing LHR 15:15 but even that only has a couple of seats showing as available.
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 5:14 am
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Can someone check BA7 for tomorrow (23/12) please (yes I know it is busy!)? Thanks!
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by Forever in Seattle
Can someone check BA7 for tomorrow (23/12) please (yes I know it is busy!)? Thanks!
BA 7 LHR
23/12/18 10:50 AMHND
24/12/18 7:35 AM777
Su,W,Th,F,Sa
76% / 17mF3 A2 J4 C3 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y2 B1H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Dec 22, 2018, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
It is full in all classes!

F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Edit: Just looked at the other LHR - SIN flights and they are nearly all full in all classes. There might be some availability on BA7008/QR946 via DOH departing LHR 15:15 but even that only has a couple of seats showing as available.
Gulp. Hope that 1. Our connection delay doesn't get any worse than it is already and 2. We won't be downgraded.

There is also a Singapore Airlines flight that night and an Emirates DXB connection could work.

I have boarding passes in hand thankfully so don't think it'll come to that, but good to have the options...
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Old Dec 23, 2018, 4:05 am
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Please would someone be able to check BA49 LHR to SEA on 26/12?

Thanks!
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Old Dec 23, 2018, 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by Tq205
Please would someone be able to check BA49 LHR to SEA on 26/12?

Thanks!
BA 49 26th Dec 18 - LHR (14:30) > SEA (16:25). B777

Currently showing as F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B8H5 K4 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G4
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Old Dec 23, 2018, 3:50 pm
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Flight load check please

Could you please check flight loads for:




BA0162 TLV to LHR Jan 03

BA0278 LHR to SJC Jan 03




Thank you!
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Old Dec 23, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by coolone119
Could you please check flight loads for:




BA0162 TLV to LHR Jan 03

BA 1620TLV
03/01/19 7:00LHR
03/01/19 10:35788
W,Th
86% / 18mJ0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y4 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA0278 LHR to SJC Jan 03



BA2790LHR
03/01/19 12:50SJC
03/01/19 15:55789
Daily
80% / 32mF3 A2 J8 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0


Thank you!
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Old Dec 24, 2018, 2:38 am
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Originally Posted by coolone119
Could you please check flight loads for:




BA0162 TLV to LHR Jan 03

BA0278 LHR to SJC Jan 03




Thank you!
BA 1620TLV
03/01/19 7:00 AMLHR
03/01/19 10:35 AM788
W,Th
86% / 18mJ0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W7 E0 T0 Y8 B3 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0


BA 2790LHR
03/01/19 12:50 PMSJC
03/01/19 3:55 PM789
Daily
80% / 32mF3 A2 J9 C3 D3 R2 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Dec 24, 2018, 5:03 am
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Trying to check-in to a seat in the same row as my family. They’re on a separate booking. Their seat map shows the seat middle seat in their row is open, while my seat map on BA.com shows that same seat taken.

On Expert Flyer, the seat is marked with an ‘x’, which means that the seat is blocked. Anyone know why?

Flight 116 JFK-LHR
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Old Dec 24, 2018, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by knit-in
Trying to check-in to a seat in the same row as my family. They’re on a separate booking. Their seat map shows the seat middle seat in their row is open, while my seat map on BA.com shows that same seat taken.

On Expert Flyer, the seat is marked with an ‘x’, which means that the seat is blocked. Anyone know why?

Flight 116 JFK-LHR
It could be that there is a Gold or silver in the seat next the the X-ed seat and its being blocked so they are not sitting next to someone.

If the other people that you are trying to sit with are gold ( or silver ) it could be them and they could move along and allow you in maybe.. Also if they are gold (or you are) you might be able to effectivly join the bookings and sit next to them with a call to the gold line.
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