Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
Dec 19, 2018, 5:23 am
#2866
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 237
Hi,
Could someone kindly let me know flight loadings for the following?
LHR - SJC, BA279 on Monday 7th Jan
SJC - LHR, BA278 on Thursday 10th Jan.
Thanks in advance.
Graham
Could someone kindly let me know flight loadings for the following?
LHR - SJC, BA279 on Monday 7th Jan
SJC - LHR, BA278 on Thursday 10th Jan.
Thanks in advance.
Graham
Dec 19, 2018, 6:03 am
#2867
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, EK Gold, GF Silver, IC Royal Ambass, Marriott Gold, TK Elite
Posts: 902
SJC-LHR BA 278 10 Jan F0 A0 J6 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Dec 19, 2018, 12:18 pm
#2868
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 58
Hello,
Please can someone check BA272 SAN-LHR on December 20th?
Thanks!
Please can someone check BA272 SAN-LHR on December 20th?
Thanks!
Dec 19, 2018, 2:55 pm
#2869
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 845
Hi,
Can someone please check the loads on
BA 281 LHR-LAX 21DEC
BA223 LHR-BNA 21DEC
Thanks!
Can someone please check the loads on
BA 281 LHR-LAX 21DEC
BA223 LHR-BNA 21DEC
Thanks!
Dec 19, 2018, 11:04 pm
#2870
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: South East England
Programs: BAEC Gold, AF-KL Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Silver
Posts: 314
Hi,
AA101 LHR - JFK 24/01/2019
AA100 JFK - LHR 28/01/2019
Please, thank you!
AA101 LHR - JFK 24/01/2019
AA100 JFK - LHR 28/01/2019
Please, thank you!
Dec 19, 2018, 11:55 pm
#2871
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Bangkok / London
Programs: BA Silver, AmEx Platinum, AVIS Presidents Club, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 1,106
Could I please check:
BA198 BOM-LHR 21 Dec 2018
Thanks,
H
Dec 20, 2018, 1:11 am
#2872
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver, ZSL Silver
Posts: 2,551
Dec 20, 2018, 6:27 am
#2873
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 335
Flight loads to Kracow?
Hi csn anyone help with flight loads to Krakow 21,22,23,24 December.
We are stuck in Jersey due to cancellation re LGW with a flight to Krakow tomorrow on BA out of Heathrow. Should we not get to UK before that flight can anyone tell me the likelihood of getting on a flight before Xmas.
We are stuck in Jersey due to cancellation re LGW with a flight to Krakow tomorrow on BA out of Heathrow. Should we not get to UK before that flight can anyone tell me the likelihood of getting on a flight before Xmas.
Dec 20, 2018, 7:04 am
#2874
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA
Posts: 45
IAD
Please would you check:
BA0217 LHR-IAD 11 Feb
BA0216 IAD-LHR 13 Feb
in J?
current prices are over Ł6k which seems surprising given expected lighter loads?
thanks!!
BA0217 LHR-IAD 11 Feb
BA0216 IAD-LHR 13 Feb
in J?
current prices are over Ł6k which seems surprising given expected lighter loads?
thanks!!
Dec 20, 2018, 7:11 am
#2875
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Manchester, UK.
Programs: BAEC Silver, then a handful of points on everything else.
Posts: 185
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing LHR on 11/02/19 12:00 AM for IAD Returning on 13/02/19 12:00 AM Flying BA Exclude Codeshares Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 217 0 LHR IAD 744 Daily F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 11:30 AM 11/02/19 2:55 PM 69% / 21m 0 Connections BA 229 0 LHR BWI 788 Daily J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E7 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 3:15 PM 11/02/19 6:45 PM 75% / 24m 0 Connections BA 231 0 LHR IAD 788 M,Th,Sa J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 4:00 PM 11/02/19 7:25 PM 60% / 21m 0 Connections BA 293 0 LHR IAD 789 M,T,Th,F F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 5:00 PM 11/02/19 8:35 PM 64% / 31m
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing LHR on 11/02/19 12:00 AM for IAD Returning on 13/02/19 12:00 AM Flying BA Exclude Codeshares Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 216 0 IAD LHR 744 Daily F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 13/02/19 6:25 PM 14/02/19 6:30 AM 87% / 21m 0 Connections BA 228 0 BWI LHR 788 Su,M,T,W,Th J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E6 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O3 G0 13/02/19 8:40 PM 14/02/19 8:35 AM 85% / 35m 0 Connections BA 292 0 IAD LHR 789 Su,M,T,W,Th,F F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E7 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 13/02/19 10:40 PM 14/02/19 10:40 AM 70% / 38m
Last edited by internetplumber; Dec 20, 2018 at 9:34 am Reason: Added note on current prices.
Dec 20, 2018, 7:16 am
#2876
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Manchester, UK.
Programs: BAEC Silver, then a handful of points on everything else.
Posts: 185
Hi csn anyone help with flight loads to Krakow 21,22,23,24 December.
We are stuck in Jersey due to cancellation re LGW with a flight to Krakow tomorrow on BA out of Heathrow. Should we not get to UK before that flight can anyone tell me the likelihood of getting on a flight before Xmas.
We are stuck in Jersey due to cancellation re LGW with a flight to Krakow tomorrow on BA out of Heathrow. Should we not get to UK before that flight can anyone tell me the likelihood of getting on a flight before Xmas.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 21/12/18 12:00 AM for KRK
Flying BA
Exclude Codeshares
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 872 0 LHR KRK 321 Daily J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
21/12/18 3:20 PM 21/12/18 6:50 PM 71% / 23m
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Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 22/12/18 12:00 AM for KRK
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 872 0 LHR KRK 320 Daily J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
22/12/18 3:15 PM 22/12/18 6:45 PM 71% / 23m
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 23/12/18 12:00 AM for KRK
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 872 0 LHR KRK 321 Daily J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H5 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
23/12/18 3:25 PM 23/12/18 6:55 PM 71% / 23m
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Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 24/12/18 12:00 AM for KRK
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 872 0 LHR KRK 321 Daily J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G3
24/12/18 12:45 PM 24/12/18 4:15 PM 71% / 23m
Dec 20, 2018, 8:35 am
#2877
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 845
Will try again,
Can someone please check the loads on
BA 281 LHR-LAX 21DEC
BA223 LHR-BNA 21DEC
Thanks!
Can someone please check the loads on
BA 281 LHR-LAX 21DEC
BA223 LHR-BNA 21DEC
Thanks!
Dec 20, 2018, 9:26 am
#2878
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 267
LHR 21/12/18 12:30
LAX 21/12/18 15:55
789
F1 A1 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y2 B2 H2 K2 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 223
LHR 21/12/18 13:25
BNA 21/12/18 16:30
788
J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y5 B2 H2 K2 M2 L2 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G3
[UK point-of-sale]
Last edited by jfallesen; Dec 20, 2018 at 9:27 am Reason: Trying to avoid lower case conversion
Dec 20, 2018, 9:55 am
#2879
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 845
Thanks jfallesen!
Dec 20, 2018, 11:25 am
#2880
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA
Posts: 45
Thanks so much internetplumber!
Looks pretty open at the moment. Although browsing the app prices, it looks like Ł6k is the usual mid-week return price for 2019 at the moment.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search Departing LHR on 11/02/19 12:00 AM for IAD Returning on 13/02/19 12:00 AM Flying BA Exclude Codeshares Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 217 0 LHR IAD 744 Daily F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 11:30 AM 11/02/19 2:55 PM 69% / 21m 0 Connections BA 229 0 LHR BWI 788 Daily J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E7 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 3:15 PM 11/02/19 6:45 PM 75% / 24m 0 Connections BA 231 0 LHR IAD 788 M,Th,Sa J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 4:00 PM 11/02/19 7:25 PM 60% / 21m 0 Connections BA 293 0 LHR IAD 789 M,T,Th,F F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 11/02/19 5:00 PM 11/02/19 8:35 PM 64% / 31m
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search Departing LHR on 11/02/19 12:00 AM for IAD Returning on 13/02/19 12:00 AM Flying BA Exclude Codeshares Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 216 0 IAD LHR 744 Daily F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 13/02/19 6:25 PM 14/02/19 6:30 AM 87% / 21m 0 Connections BA 228 0 BWI LHR 788 Su,M,T,W,Th J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E6 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O3 G0 13/02/19 8:40 PM 14/02/19 8:35 AM 85% / 35m 0 Connections BA 292 0 IAD LHR 789 Su,M,T,W,Th,F F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E7 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 13/02/19 10:40 PM 14/02/19 10:40 AM 70% / 38m