Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#2656
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: Ba executive club
Posts: 11
Hey guys,
Just wondering if someone would be kind enough to check these flights out for me
BA2277 LGW-LAS 19/11 - currently wt+ ( t class)
BA274 LAS-LHR 26/11 - currently wt+ ( w class)
Was thinking of checking for an avios upgrade (wifes 40th) but not able to process online. be handy to know possible availability before i call.
I'd really appreciate any help possible
Just wondering if someone would be kind enough to check these flights out for me
BA2277 LGW-LAS 19/11 - currently wt+ ( t class)
BA274 LAS-LHR 26/11 - currently wt+ ( w class)
Was thinking of checking for an avios upgrade (wifes 40th) but not able to process online. be handy to know possible availability before i call.
I'd really appreciate any help possible
#2657
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 101
Thanks inside sources telling me 6315 overbooked in Y by 19 and J has 23 spare seats, so will hold off on AUP on BA6315. BA6312 is showing as 5 seats in J but 14 spare in economy, so might go for AUP. Who knows will ask ticket desk for loads and make a decision off that when in DUR, CPT I'm just gunna wing it and hope. I know also there is only 8 elites on 6315 flight, not sure on exact ratio, but reckon most will be bronze.
Thanks agin
Thanks agin
The 6315 is definitely busier in the back than in the front atm so definitely possible an op-up!
Happy flying
#2658
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 101
Hey guys,
Just wondering if someone would be kind enough to check these flights out for me
BA2277 LGW-LAS 19/11 - currently wt+ ( t class)
BA274 LAS-LHR 26/11 - currently wt+ ( w class)
Was thinking of checking for an avios upgrade (wifes 40th) but not able to process online. be handy to know possible availability before i call.
I'd really appreciate any help possible
Just wondering if someone would be kind enough to check these flights out for me
BA2277 LGW-LAS 19/11 - currently wt+ ( t class)
BA274 LAS-LHR 26/11 - currently wt+ ( w class)
Was thinking of checking for an avios upgrade (wifes 40th) but not able to process online. be handy to know possible availability before i call.
I'd really appreciate any help possible
BA 2277 - 19Nov - J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA 274 - 26Nov - F5 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I4 W2 E0 T0 Y1 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
There is on the avios upgrade side, there're at least 2seats available on the 2277 but unfortunately none on the way back!
#2659
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Cape Town
Programs: BA Exec Gold , Qatar Priviledge Club Plat
Posts: 1,584
23 are the empty J seats currently on the seat map but they don't necessarily correspond to the available seat (which is not the sum of the business class fare availabilities....). Just thought it was worth to mention!
The 6315 is definitely busier in the back than in the front atm so definitely possible an op-up!
Happy flying
The 6315 is definitely busier in the back than in the front atm so definitely possible an op-up!
Happy flying
#2660
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: Ba executive club
Posts: 11
Thanks Pelu, Definitely food for thought.
I think I might give them a call and see what they say.
Might complain a little as they have already re-routed our return 3 times already.
Appreciate the help
I think I might give them a call and see what they say.
Might complain a little as they have already re-routed our return 3 times already.
Appreciate the help
#2661
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: Ba executive club
Posts: 11
Just on the return flight. if im reading this correctly it looks like the WT might be full on the way back.
Maybe possiblities of an upgrade closer to the time.
Maybe possiblities of an upgrade closer to the time.
#2662
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 101
If there's an overbooking of 19 and they are still selling seats, it's either a lot of up-ups or they are betting on plenty of no-show/last minute changes. either way, pretty good chances for you then!!
#2663
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 101
A nice complain and some moanings might just complete the work
#2664
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: Ba executive club
Posts: 11
Well, since i work as a travel industry contact centre , i might break out some of our insider secret handshakes and codes and see what i can do. lol
thanks again for everything. of course if im successful i will update
thanks again for everything. of course if im successful i will update
#2665
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,806
Good evening fellow FTers,
Please could somebody get the flight loads for:
BA1386 LHR-MAN 16/11
BA1600 MAN-PHL 16/11
BA6541 PHL-SFO 16/11
Yes, I know it is a very stupid route to get to SFO from LHR, but am flying in WT and wanted to maximise my TPs for the route.
Many thanks.
Please could somebody get the flight loads for:
BA1386 LHR-MAN 16/11
BA1600 MAN-PHL 16/11
BA6541 PHL-SFO 16/11
Yes, I know it is a very stupid route to get to SFO from LHR, but am flying in WT and wanted to maximise my TPs for the route.
Many thanks.
#2666
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA Exec Gold, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 128
Thank you! Potentially more carnage at the gate then - on BA257 last night it was oversold in every class and they were downgrading people from all classes and bumping some Y off altogether. Was very dramatic!
Last edited by IslingtonFlyer; Nov 12, 2018 at 11:54 am
#2667
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 5,380
Good evening fellow FTers,
Please could somebody get the flight loads for:
BA1386 LHR-MAN 16/11
BA1600 MAN-PHL 16/11
BA6541 PHL-SFO 16/11
Yes, I know it is a very stupid route to get to SFO from LHR, but am flying in WT and wanted to maximise my TPs for the route.
Many thanks.
Please could somebody get the flight loads for:
BA1386 LHR-MAN 16/11
BA1600 MAN-PHL 16/11
BA6541 PHL-SFO 16/11
Yes, I know it is a very stupid route to get to SFO from LHR, but am flying in WT and wanted to maximise my TPs for the route.
Many thanks.
BA 1386
LHR 11/16/18 7:55 AM MAN 11/16/18 8:55 AM
J9 C6 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B8 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G3
BA (AA) 1600
MAN 11/16/18 11:05 AM PHL 11/16/18 2:10 PM
J2 C1 D1 R1 I0 W7 E7 T6 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 N7 S7 O7 Q7
BA (AA) 6541
PHL 11/16/18 3:55 PM SFO 11/16/18 7:17 PM
J7 C7 D7 R7 I5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 N5 S7 O3 Q5
LHR 11/16/18 7:55 AM MAN 11/16/18 8:55 AM
J9 C6 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B8 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G3
BA (AA) 1600
MAN 11/16/18 11:05 AM PHL 11/16/18 2:10 PM
J2 C1 D1 R1 I0 W7 E7 T6 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 N7 S7 O7 Q7
BA (AA) 6541
PHL 11/16/18 3:55 PM SFO 11/16/18 7:17 PM
J7 C7 D7 R7 I5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 N5 S7 O3 Q5
#2668
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 101
I can only imagine...hang on tight to your seat!!! Good luck buddy
#2669
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Cape Town
Programs: BA Exec Gold , Qatar Priviledge Club Plat
Posts: 1,584
Time will tell!
#2670
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 101
Comair are quite calculated, with such little flights compared to mainline BA I'm sure they have more room to really analyse their loads. Who knows, but will report back. I rate they will bump all elites up and a few non-elites if everyones pitches as business cabin is virtual empty via the seatmap ( i know that is no sign) but with mate saying 23 spots in club then who knows maybe J has only one confirmed for J as there are only 23 seats left in club. Bizarre as they are still selling at H fare bucket not even Y or B for economy.
Time will tell!
Time will tell!
If I have another slow day I'll report back tomorrow, but in any case please do report back as I am very intrigued now