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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 6:59 am
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Could someone please look at BA0295 LHR-ORD on 31 October. Also, my fare designation letter outbound is U. We have got a space Available upgrade request (J to F) in the system so it could be that. Many thanks
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by castle25
please can someone check ba 80 mct-lhr on thur 1st nov

thanks
mct lhr 0905 1330 ba 80
f1 a0 j8 c0 dc rc ic w9 ec tc y7 b1 h1 k1 m1 l1 v1 sc nc qc oc g1
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by Definitas
Could someone please look at BA0295 LHR-ORD on 31 October. Also, my fare designation letter outbound is U. We have got a space Available upgrade request (J to F) in the system so it could be that. Many thanks
LHR ORD 1210 1605 BA 295
F6 A5 J9 C0 DC RC IC W9 E5 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V1 SC NC QC

Can't see U Class on BA on GDS, it will be a 'hidden' class. But i'd be fairly optimistic in your situation.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Sam Bee
LHR ORD 1210 1605 BA 295
F6 A5 J9 C0 DC RC IC W9 E5 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V1 SC NC QC

Can't see U Class on BA on GDS, it will be a 'hidden' class. But i'd be fairly optimistic in your situation.
Hi. I replied earlier but it doesn’t seem to have posted. I have since found out that U means a CW redemption. However, with 6 seats still available in F, I am clinging to hope that the upgrade may happen. The official word from BA is that it could happen at check in but could possibly happen at the gate. I am very keen to see the CCR so hope we get it at check in.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 10:33 pm
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Hi,
Could you please check loads on the following flights, please:

SJC to LHR BA0278 Dec 13
LHR to TLV BA0163 Dec 14
TLV to LHR BA0162 Jan 03
LHR to SJC BA0279 Jan 03

Might there be a chance for a POUG to appear from WT to WT+?

Thanks Kindly.
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Old Oct 30, 2018, 7:00 am
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BA 278
0
SJC 13/12/18 18:50
LHR 14/12/18 13:05
789
Daily
95% / 19m
F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M6 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 163
0
LHR 14/12/18 20:55
TLV 15/12/18 3:45
788
Su,M,T,W,Th,F
42% / 19m
J9 C9 D3 R1 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0

BA 162
0
TLV 03/01/19 7:00
LHR 03/01/19 10:35
788
W,Th
86% / 20m
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H7 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 279
0
LHR 03/01/19 12:50
SJC 03/01/19 15:55
789
Daily
74% / 24m
F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R8 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

(US POS)
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Old Oct 30, 2018, 1:13 pm
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Hi,
Could someone check loads on the following flights please:

LGW ANU BA2157 11 November
ANU LGW BA2156 23 November


I'm travelling with Mrs HG in WT for my sins and hoping there might be some spare space around in the WT cabin(s)

Thanks
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Old Oct 30, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by highlandguy
hi,
could someone check loads on the following flights please:

lgw anu ba2157 11 november
anu lgw ba2156 23 november


i'm travelling with mrs hg in wt for my sins and hoping there might be some spare space around in the wt cabin(s)

thanks
ba 2157 0 lgw 11/11/18 9:25 anu 14:10 777 j3 c3 d1 r0 i0 w1 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9

ba 2156 0 anu 23/11/18 21:50 lgw 9:50 777 j0 c0 d0 r0 i0 w0 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9

UK POS
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Old Oct 30, 2018, 9:08 pm
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Thanks!
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Old Nov 1, 2018, 7:05 am
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Hi there, can anybody just help with the flight now leaving KUL. Looks like they have moved PAX over from the canceled flight yesterday to this one. Would like to know the load situation. Thanks!

BA0034
Nov 1 2018
KUL-LHR
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 4:07 am
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getting home from Spain

Could someone have a look at BA461, MAD-LHR tomorrow 3 Nov please? It's the 777 rotation which doesn't seem to be for sale any more, so wondering if they're planning on subbing in a sh frame....

[hmmm - looks like they've switched the 777 for a 789, which would explain why they've stopped selling seats. Mrs Mac +1 is in club, and i can see the seatmap for her, but miniMac and I are down the back, and I'm getting 'we can't offer online checkin' when I try to look at the seatmap... should I be worried?]

Last edited by Stewie Mac; Nov 2, 2018 at 4:16 am
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 5:18 am
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Good Morning, can someone please help me on the flight load for below?
Monday 5th November
LHR-PVG
BA 0161
Many thanks
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by Stewie Mac
Could someone have a look at BA461, MAD-LHR tomorrow 3 Nov please? It's the 777 rotation which doesn't seem to be for sale any more, so wondering if they're planning on subbing in a sh frame....

[hmmm - looks like they've switched the 777 for a 789, which would explain why they've stopped selling seats. Mrs Mac +1 is in club, and i can see the seatmap for her, but miniMac and I are down the back, and I'm getting 'we can't offer online checkin' when I try to look at the seatmap... should I be worried?]
BA 461 0 MAD
03/11/18 5:50 PM LHR
03/11/18 7:10 PM 789
Daily
93% / 9m J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by bagman55
Good Morning, can someone please help me on the flight load for below?
Monday 5th November
LHR-PVG
BA 0161
Many thanks
BA 161 0 LHR
05/11/18 9:40 PM PVG
06/11/18 5:00 PM 777
M,Th,Sa
96% / 8m F5 A4 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W9 E7 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N1 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 5:49 am
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Thanks....what does the % mean - can't see an explanation in the wiki?
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