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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
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What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 12:53 pm
  #2326  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Originally Posted by Lovecraft
Can someone please post availability and seatmap for:

BA213 LHR-BOS 12/10 (WT)
BA212 BOS-LHR 22/10 (WTP)

I would like to make sure I can choose pair of windows seats on the upper deck (it's an A380)
BA 213 LHR 11:15a → BOS 1:35p
F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E1 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O1 G0

BA 212 BOS 7:15p → LHR 6:50a
F7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E8 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

Struggling to post outbound seat map using mobile. Hope attached helps.

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Old Sep 2, 2018, 1:07 pm
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Join Date: May 2018
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Originally Posted by Sealink
BA 33 LHR 8:15p → KUL 4:10p
F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA 34 KUL 11:10p → LHR 5:25a
​​​​F3 A3 J3 C3 D2 R1 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0





Many thanks
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 4:39 am
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Join Date: Dec 2016
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Interesting load data for the KUL route.

Could I please request load data for BA0033 - Sep 8 - LHR 8:15p → KUL 4:10p ?

thanks!
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 4:41 am
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Originally Posted by durod
Interesting load data for the KUL route.

Could I please request load data for BA0033 - Sep 8 - LHR 8:15p → KUL 4:10p ?

thanks!
F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 R6 I4 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by ehud
Thanks!
THought it'd be sold out regularly, but evidently not...
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 10:43 am
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Ba 189 LHR EWR ​​​6th September?
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:02 am
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How would you read this? Flight in 2 days (5th September). BA 105LHR 10:25p → DXB 8:25a
F9 A9 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by Foofighter69
How would you read this? Flight in 2 days (5th September). BA 105LHR 10:25p → DXB 8:25a
F9 A9 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Quite full in Y, not too busy in WTP, busier in CW and dead in First.
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:04 am
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by Jerseylily2
Ba 189 LHR EWR ​​​6th September?
Here you go...
BA 189
LHR 06/09/18 16:45
EWR 06/09/18 19:35
F5 A4 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S7 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:13 am
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Join Date: May 2016
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque
Here you go...
BA 189
LHR 06/09/18 16:45
EWR 06/09/18 19:35
F5 A4 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S7 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Worryingly empty...??
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 11:27 am
  #2336  
 
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Originally Posted by Jerseylily2
Worryingly empty...??
Wouldn't worry me that much, although I can see what you're saying with the recent cancellations. But First is nearly half sold, not selling many discounted CW or WT+ seats... if it was 9s across the board then I'd be worried.
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 12:07 pm
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Fingers crossed! I have a connecting flight into London so always a pain when there is a cancellation.
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 12:22 pm
  #2338  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Hello,

Can someone please check the loads on the followings flights for me please?
- LHR-BEY, BA149 on the 6th September
- BEY-LHR,BA148 on the 10th September

Many thanks!
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 12:23 pm
  #2339  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by Jerseylily2
Fingers crossed! I have a connecting flight into London so always a pain when there is a cancellation.
Well if there is, hopefully the worst case will be them putting you on one of the many JFK services
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 12:25 pm
  #2340  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Originally Posted by IslingtonFlyer
Hello,

Can someone please check the loads on the followings flights for me please?
- LHR-BEY, BA149 on the 6th September
- BEY-LHR,BA148 on the 10th September

Many thanks!
Here you go...

BA 149
LHR 06/09/18 14:40
BEY06/09/18 21:30
J9 C1 D1 R1 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9

BA 148
BEY 10/09/18 8:00
LHR 10/09/18 11:20
J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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