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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by Flame3601
Sorry another one please .

CPT-JNB 11/08 BA6412
JNB-CPT 11/08 BA6431

Thanks.
Here you go - with UK POS.

CPT-JNB 11/08 BA6412
J4 C2 D0 R0 I0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

JNB-CPT 11/08 BA6431
J9 C6 D7 R6 I6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O3 G9
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 11:11 am
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Could someone help with BA2603 (LGW-PSA) on 5 Sep?

Many thanks!
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by polochick
Could someone help with BA2603 (LGW-PSA) on 5 Sep?

Many thanks!
Not sure which way you need so here are both ways. UK POS

LGW to PSA is BA2602

BA 2602
LGW05/09/18 16:45
PSA05/09/18 20:00319
W,Th,F,Sa
69% / 25mJ9 C7 D3 R4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0


PSA to LGW BA2603

BA 2603
PSA05/09/18 21:00
LGW05/09/18 22:10319
W,Th,F,Sa
83% / 22mJ9 C5 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M5 L2 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by polochick
Could someone help with BA2603 (LGW-PSA) on 5 Sep?

Many thanks!
2603 isn't LGW-PSA. The 2602 has the following

BA 2602
LGW 09/05/18 4:45 PM
PSA 09/05/18 8:00 PM 319
J9 C7 D3 R4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

and incase it was the 2603 (the 9pm PSA-LGW)
J9 C5 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M5 L2 V0N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

beaten to it there. Must find the delete option!
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by HighlandBoy
Not sure which way you need so here are both ways. UK POS

LGW to PSA is BA2602

BA 2602
LGW05/09/18 16:45
PSA05/09/18 20:00319
W,Th,F,Sa
69% / 25mJ9 C7 D3 R4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0


PSA to LGW BA2603

BA 2603
PSA05/09/18 21:00
LGW05/09/18 22:10319
W,Th,F,Sa
83% / 22mJ9 C5 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M5 L2 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
Originally Posted by tinkicker
2603 isn't LGW-PSA. The 2602 has the following

BA 2602
LGW 09/05/18 4:45 PM
PSA 09/05/18 8:00 PM 319
J9 C7 D3 R4 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

and incase it was the 2603 (the 9pm PSA-LGW)
J9 C5 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M5 L2 V0N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

beaten to it there. Must find the delete option!
Thanks both! I was overexcited (just booked quite a few leisure trips ) and put the airport codes the wrong way around, sorry.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:04 pm
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Can someone check the flight load of BA0286 from SFO to LHR on August 12 2018
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:07 pm
  #2197  
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Originally Posted by styrinio
Can someone check the flight load of BA0286 from SFO to LHR on August 12 2018
Hello styrinio and welcome to FlyerTalk. Here is the information you asked requested.

F1 A0 J2 C1 D1 R1 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y5 B5H5 K3 M3 L2 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G5
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad
Hello styrinio and welcome to FlyerTalk. Here is the information you asked requested.

F1 A0 J2 C1 D1 R1 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y5 B5H5 K3 M3 L2 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G5
can you explain me this because i dont understand it totally. Is this a lot left or not?
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by styrinio
can you explain me this because i dont understand it totally. Is this a lot left or not?
The short answer to your question is that there's not a lot left. Perhaps tell us more about what you want to conclude from the information. Do you already have a ticket for this flight or are you looking to buy one? Which cabin are you wanting to travel in? Are you looking at these numbers in order to see the likelihood of an operational upgrade? Or are you trying to determine something else?

Buying a ticket for this flight now will likely be quite expensive.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 8:58 pm
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Yes I have a ticket already but i want to know what the chance is to get an upgrade.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 8:59 pm
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And i will fly economy
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad
The short answer to your question is that there's not a lot left. Perhaps tell us more about what you want to conclude from the information. Do you already have a ticket for this flight or are you looking to buy one? Which cabin are you wanting to travel in? Are you looking at these numbers in order to see the likelihood of an operational upgrade? Or are you trying to determine something else?

Buying a ticket for this flight now will likely be quite expensive.
yes i have a ticket and i fly economy but i want to know the chance to get an upgrade
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 3:40 am
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Could someone check AA221 AMS-DFW on 18/08 again for me please?

Cheers!
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 3:46 am
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Originally Posted by etiene
could someone check aa221 ams-dfw on 18/08 again for me please?

Cheers!
j7 r7 d7 i7 w1 p0 y7 b7 h7 k7 m7 l7g7 v7 s7 n7 q7 o7
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by ringingup


j7 r7 d7 i7 w1 p0 y7 b7 h7 k7 m7 l7g7 v7 s7 n7 q7 o7
Lots of 7s seven days out...!

Ta!
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