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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jul 13, 2018, 3:11 pm
  #2086  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by JustPete
Could someone help with BA0009 July 12th?
July 12 was yesterday. You mean August?
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Old Jul 13, 2018, 5:28 pm
  #2087  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Windsor Berkshire
Programs: BA Silver, VS, Carlson, IHG Gold
Posts: 100
Originally Posted by Jacob02
July 12 was yesterday. You mean August?
Oops, I actually meant July 20th!!!
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 4:15 am
  #2088  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: BA Gold IHG Plantium Elite
Posts: 66
Can somebody please check BA117 LHR JFK 18th JUL
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 5:18 am
  #2089  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 36
Originally Posted by fripperies
I guess it's variable and dependent on cabin but it is an extremely busy route and in my experience F and J are nearly always full. WT+ likewise because it's small cabin. Can't speak for Y. If the query is about seat pre-allocation, a fair proportion of people are put off by the high charge and do not pay to reserve seats. For a family party it's a hefty chunk of £££. So, if you are not overly fussy about where you sit and don't mind a bit of a gamble, my instinct is to say you should be able to get tolerable seats at check-in. If it's really important to you to have one of the better seats, or seat a party together, you'd probably need to cough up and reserve. That's only one opinion - but as I say, it is a busy route.
Thank you! We decided to pay for our seats as we want to sit together on monkey class, and then on the UD so we dont have to bother a stranger when we want to walk around or go to the toilet
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 6:19 am
  #2090  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Aberdeen
Programs: BA Gold, AF Silver
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by JustPete


Oops, I actually meant July 20th!!!
Here you are

UK POS

BA 9
LHR 20/07/18 16:00
BKK 21/07/18 9:40
777
Daily 47% / 27m
J4 C2 D0 R0 I0 W8 E5 T0 Y9 B7 H0 K0
M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
JustPete likes this.
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 6:22 am
  #2091  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Aberdeen
Programs: BA Gold, AF Silver
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by msstendring
Can somebody please check BA117 LHR JFK 18th JUL
Here you go

UK POS

BA 117
LHR 18/07/18 8:30
JFK 18/07/18 11:10
744
M,T,W,Th,F,Sa 63% / 23m
F1 A0 J5 C1 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y6 B4
H1 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 5:20 pm
  #2092  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North Yorkshire, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 79
Hi, could someone please check loads on BA103 on 25th July and then BA102 on 6th Aug across WT, WT+ and Club cabins?

We’re booked into WT+ both ways - the 102 has just had an aircraft change from a 788 to 789....which I’m guessing could be in the sweet spot of a potential upgrade from WT+ to Club given the 789 has fewer economy seats than the 788 and the Calgary route is a popular holiday trip in the summer.

many thanks in advance
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 5:42 pm
  #2093  
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 208
Originally Posted by Lumpster
Hi, could someone please check loads on BA103 on 25th July and then BA102 on 6th Aug across WT, WT+ and Club cabins?

We’re booked into WT+ both ways - the 102 has just had an aircraft change from a 788 to 789....which I’m guessing could be in the sweet spot of a potential upgrade from WT+ to Club given the 789 has fewer economy seats than the 788 and the Calgary route is a popular holiday trip in the summer.

many thanks in advance
BA 103
LHR 07/25/18 6:20 PM
YYC 07/25/18 8:15 PM
788
M,T,W,Th,F
J9 C9 D9 R8 I6 W7 E0 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 102
YYC 08/06/18 10:05 PM
LHR 08/07/18 1:45 PM
788
Daily
J9 C9 D8 R6 I4 W3 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Jul 16, 2018, 3:47 am
  #2094  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,009
Hi All,

Can anyone check the loads on BA0059 20/12 - i've just been moved to this service due to a time change on my original itinerary. There are no UD seats available (for 2 pax) so assessing the chance of an OpUP.

thanks
GavT
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Old Jul 16, 2018, 4:50 am
  #2095  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: BA exec, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 556
Originally Posted by GavT_london
Hi All,

Can anyone check the loads on BA0059 20/12 - i've just been moved to this service due to a time change on my original itinerary. There are no UD seats available (for 2 pax) so assessing the chance of an OpUP.

thanks
GavT
Here u go

BA 59
LHR
12/20/18 9:30 PM
CPT
12/21/18 11:05 AM

M,T,W,Th,F,Sa
F0 A0 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

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Old Jul 16, 2018, 5:06 am
  #2096  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,009
Originally Posted by Telecasterman
Here u go

BA 59
LHR
12/20/18 9:30 PM
CPT
12/21/18 11:05 AM

M,T,W,Th,F,Sa
F0 A0 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Many thanks Telecasterman - looks like an OpUp is out of the question!
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Old Jul 17, 2018, 9:47 am
  #2097  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5
Could someone post BA0194 for July 18th? Thanks in advance.
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Old Jul 17, 2018, 12:04 pm
  #2098  
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 208
Originally Posted by pdietert
Could someone post BA0194 for July 18th? Thanks in advance.
Here you go

BA 194
IAH 07/18/18 4:05 PM
LHR 07/19/18 7:25 AM
777
Daily
F5 A4 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K6 M3 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Jul 17, 2018, 12:24 pm
  #2099  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by sometalkofme
Here you go

BA 194
IAH 07/18/18 4:05 PM
LHR 07/19/18 7:25 AM
777
Daily
F5 A4 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K6 M3 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
Thanks sometalkofme!
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Old Jul 18, 2018, 5:59 am
  #2100  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 30
Could Someone check

ba0395 bru - lhr
ba0397 bru- lhr

for July 20th?

Thanks.
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