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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 1:08 pm
  #2041  
 
Join Date: May 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 219
Could someone check on BA 0175 on 14 July please (LHR - JFK)

I'm booked into Premium Economy (T class)

How are my OpUp chances looking?
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Old Jul 3, 2018, 8:58 am
  #2042  
 
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BA 175
0
LHR 14/07/18 9:35
JFK 14/07/18 12:25
744
Daily
79% / 21m
F0 A0 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

(UK POS)

Looks like not completely unlikely.
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Old Jul 3, 2018, 9:16 am
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Join Date: May 2018
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Originally Posted by jfallesen
BA 175
0
LHR 14/07/18 9:35
JFK 14/07/18 12:25
744
Daily
79% / 21m
F0 A0 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

(UK POS)

Looks like not completely unlikely.
Thanks - appreciate it
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Old Jul 3, 2018, 10:17 am
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gatwick, UK
Programs: UA *G, BA Silver
Posts: 1,673
286 / 287 missing from Seat availability on EF?

When I do a search for availability SFO-LHR in July, August or September 286 and 287 no longer show up at all in the results. If I look for the seat map they both are there as expected (and with Flight Status), but Flight availability and Awards and Upgrades fail to show it.

[Edit: looking more closely, 286 is shown on Saturdays only and 287 is shown for Tuesday-Saturday, but not Sundays and Mondays. So it may be an error in frequency coding.]

Can someone else check and tell me whether I'm going crazy?

Last edited by SeattleDavid; Jul 3, 2018 at 10:20 am Reason: More information
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:39 am
  #2045  
 
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: BA Exec Club - Gold
Posts: 171
Hiya,

Please could somebody check BA725 on Sunday 15th July 2018? GVA - LHR at 10:10.

I'm currently booked on BA733 later in the eve (17:45) and wondering whether to wait until the day and change flights for fee (if it's likely to be available) or whether to change in advance now and pay the Ł120 in change fee and "additional fare".

Many thanks!
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:47 am
  #2046  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Lewes, UK
Programs: BA Silver
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Originally Posted by flyer_tom
hiya,

please could somebody check ba725 on sunday 15th july 2018? Gva - lhr at 10:10.

I'm currently booked on ba733 later in the eve (17:45) and wondering whether to wait until the day and change flights for fee (if it's likely to be available) or whether to change in advance now and pay the Ł120 in change fee and "additional fare".

Many thanks!
ba 725
gva 15/07/18 10:10
lhr 15/07/18 11:00
319
j9 c6 d2 r0 i0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m0 l0 v0 n0 o0 q0 s0 g0
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 11:51 am
  #2047  
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 259
LHR-AUH BA73 9 April 2019

Hi:
Snagged CW flights with AS Awards for hubby and I, 2019. Please could someone have a look at the availability in CW as we figure it will be worth the fee to us if we can snag seats in the mini cabin following everything I have learned on FT Not to mention we will be flying in from the West Coast to connect to this flight same day and will want to sleep, relax as much as possible on this flight.

LHR-AUH
BA0073
Club World
April 9, 2019 12:45, Arr 22:55
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 11:59 am
  #2048  
 
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Location: Gatwick, UK
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Originally Posted by MAXII
LHR-AUH
BA0073
Club World
April 9, 2019 12:45, Arr 22:55
It looks like there is not a single seat taken at the moment in any class or cabin.

If you want to pay you will have the choice of the best seats in the house.
Availability is F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 12:05 pm
  #2049  
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 259
Originally Posted by SeattleDavid
It looks like there is not a single seat taken at the moment in any class or cabin.

If you want to pay you will have the choice of the best seats in the house.
Availability is F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Thankyou so much!
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 2:39 pm
  #2050  
 
Join Date: May 2018
Programs: SAS Gold, Hilton Diamond, OWS
Posts: 245
Can someone please check the following for me? My parents would like to SDC to the following flight, but are concerned that it might be sold out.

BLL-LHR
BA805
Euro Traveler
July 10, 2018, Departing 11:15, arriving 12:10
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 2:48 pm
  #2051  
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
Originally Posted by Scandinavian traveler
Can someone please check the following for me? My parents would like to SDC to the following flight, but are concerned that it might be sold out.

BLL-LHR
BA805
Euro Traveler
July 10, 2018, Departing 11:15, arriving 12:10
Here you are.

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Old Jul 4, 2018, 2:57 pm
  #2052  
 
Join Date: May 2018
Programs: SAS Gold, Hilton Diamond, OWS
Posts: 245
Originally Posted by golfmad
Here you are.

Thank you very much, that was really quick. Seems like they might have a chance, especially if they do not sell that many CE seats and move the curtain forward a bit.
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 4:51 am
  #2053  
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 245
ARN-LHR

Hello. Please could someone help with the following.

6 July ARN-LHR
Both BA781 and BA783.

Thanks so much in advance.
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 4:54 am
  #2054  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Somewhere around Europe...
Programs: BA Gold; MB Ti; HH Diamond; IHG Plat; RR Gold
Posts: 530
Originally Posted by Voda_boy
Hello. Please could someone help with the following.

6 July ARN-LHR
Both BA781 and BA783.

Thanks so much in advance.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing ARN on 06/07/18 12:00 AM for LHR
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK

0 Connections
BA 781 0 ARN LHR 767 Su,F,Sa J8 C2 D2 R0 I0 Y9 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G7
06/07/18 6:05 PM 06/07/18 7:50 PM 79% / 30m

0 Connections
BA 783 0 ARN LHR 320 Su,M,T,W,Th,F J4 C2 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B6 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
06/07/18 9:20 PM 06/07/18 10:50 PM 88% / 18m
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Old Jul 7, 2018, 11:47 am
  #2055  
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Programs: British Airways
Posts: 3
Hello,

Could someone please check loads in World Traveller on BA0109 LHR-DXB on 17th July?

We’re travelling as 2 adults and 2 kids, any advice on seat selection appreciated too.

Is it worth pre pay to book a window and aisle x 2 and hope no one gets allocated the middle seat to try and get more space? Only if loads are light of course.
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