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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old May 29, 2018, 5:45 am
  #1831  
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Gold Elite, Le Club Accor Platinum
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Originally Posted by mmxbreaks
How is Friday's (1st June) BA31 LHR-HKG looking please? Trying to figure out the chances of a AUP...
BA 31 0 LHR
01/06/18 6:40 PM HKG
02/06/18 1:40 PM 388
Daily
74% / 22m F3 A2 J9 C4 D5 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M6 L3 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G7
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Old May 29, 2018, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by Strattonflyer
BA 31 0 LHR
01/06/18 6:40 PM HKG
02/06/18 1:40 PM 388
Daily
74% / 22m F3 A2 J9 C4 D5 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M6 L3 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G7
Ace, thanks. Wonder if that'll change much. The A2 might mean there's an F seat offered...?
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Old May 29, 2018, 9:27 am
  #1833  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 9
Would greatly appreciate it if someone could check LHR->ICN 31 May BA17 for me. There's a 'FLUB' Class opportunity and I'm wondering how full CW is...

Thanks very much in advance.
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Old May 29, 2018, 10:10 am
  #1834  
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Originally Posted by Chris1200
Would greatly appreciate it if someone could check LHR->ICN 31 May BA17 for me. There's a 'FLUB' Class opportunity and I'm wondering how full CW is...

Thanks very much in advance.
CLUB is looking quite open

BA 17 0 LHR
31/05/18 12:35 PM ICN
01/06/18 7:30 AM 789
Daily
84% / 17m J9 C3 D3 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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Old May 29, 2018, 10:13 am
  #1835  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 9
Originally Posted by deboyzoned
CLUB is looking quite open

BA 17 0 LHR
31/05/18 12:35 PM ICN
01/06/18 7:30 AM 789
Daily
84% / 17m J9 C3 D3 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
Thank you!

Yes it is... I spoke to someone from BA on the phone who assured me I wouldn't be bumped from my First seat (I was concerned as I'm moving from a good CW seat with window/aisle access). But judging by what I've read on FLUB threads, it seems unlikely they'll use First at all :/
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Old May 30, 2018, 10:54 am
  #1836  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Belfast / London
Programs: BA Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Gold, MeliáRewards Platinum (no longer used)
Posts: 115
Originally Posted by HighlandBoy
Here you go

UK POS

BA 340KUL
02/06/18 23:10LHR
03/06/18 5:25789
Daily
74% / 16mF3 A2 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y1 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
ooo, this looks quite busy. Perhaps a stupid question but what hope might a silver have of op upgrade from wtp? Also, perhaps even stupider, but why is BA site still selling premium economy tickets to this flight - is this the difference between 0 and C for those fare classes?
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Old May 30, 2018, 11:14 am
  #1837  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: Mucci, BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Stena Gold
Posts: 1,086
Could somebody check BA68 (PHL-LHR) on 1/7, please?

thank you
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Old May 30, 2018, 11:19 am
  #1838  
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,254
Originally Posted by Gastrocnemius
Could somebody check BA68 (PHL-LHR) on 1/7, please?

thank you
BA 68
PHL 07/01/18 10:00 PM
LHR 07/02/18 10:15 AM
789
F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I1 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V4 S3 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Pilot37
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Old May 30, 2018, 2:41 pm
  #1839  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 52
A question on two segments:

June 9, 2018
BA 294 (ORD-LHR)

June 10, 2018
BA 65 (LHR-NBO)

Any thoughts on chances for a WTP to Club op. upgrade would be helpful too!

Many thanks.
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Old May 30, 2018, 3:14 pm
  #1840  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: LHR
Programs: BA GGL/CCR
Posts: 63
Originally Posted by Jacob02
A question on two segments:

June 9, 2018
BA 294 (ORD-LHR): F6 A5 J9 C8 D6 R4 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 (US POS) no idea on the upgrade, still a few seats remaining in WTP and lots of availability elsewhere.

June 10, 2018
BA 65 (LHR-NBO): F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 (US POS) space in WTP and a couple more seats available on a UK POS too....seems unlikely to me right now, but I am still learning!

Any thoughts on chances for a WTP to Club op. upgrade would be helpful too!

Many thanks.
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Old May 31, 2018, 5:36 am
  #1841  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 122
Could someone please check availability on the following flight:

2nd June, BA2157 LGW to SKB

Many thanks
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Old May 31, 2018, 6:28 am
  #1842  
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 532
Originally Posted by PointsPointsPoints
Could someone please check availability on the following flight:

2nd June, BA2157 LGW to SKB

Many thanks
LGW 06/02/18 10:25 SKB J9 C7 D5 R5 I0 W6 E5 T5 Y3 B2 H1 K1M1 L1 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Looks busy down the back.
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Old May 31, 2018, 6:35 am
  #1843  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 169
Could someone please check:
Thu, 07-Jun, BA217 LHR-IAD

Much appreciated
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Old May 31, 2018, 6:55 am
  #1844  
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Location: UK
Posts: 10,140
Here you go, a 747 Super-J at the moment so the latest Panasonic IFE

Originally Posted by VFRonTop
Could someone please check:
Thu, 07-Jun, BA217 LHR-IAD

Much appreciated
BA 217
LHR06/07/18 11:00 AM
IAD06/07/18 2:05 PM
744
Su,M,W,Th,F,Sa
87% / 22m

F2 A1 J9 C5 D2 R0 I0 W9 E6 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N1 Q0 O0 G3
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Old May 31, 2018, 3:53 pm
  #1845  
 
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Location: BRS
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
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24th June BA84 YVR-LHR please. Thanks!
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