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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Apr 12, 2018, 9:10 pm
  #1546  
 
Join Date: May 2016
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Hi, could someone have a look at BA084 YVR LHR on the 14th, it's only showing the two seats I chose in first when I booked them 6 months ago, being gold I thought I would be getting better options.

Cheers,

Subsea.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 1:34 am
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Looks sold out:

BA 840YVR
14/04/18 20:55LHR
15/04/18 14:15744
Daily
75% / 41mF0 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W6 E0 T0 Y6 B3
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 5:19 am
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Hi.

Could someone kindly check...2714 LGW - AGP for tomorrow please? 14th.

Thank you.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 5:20 am
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Lewes, UK
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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk
hi.

Could someone kindly check...2714 lgw - agp for tomorrow please? 14th.

Thank you.
uk pos

ba 2714
lgw 14/04/18 9:20
agp 14/04/18 13:20
319
j4 c3 d1 r3 i2 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l4 v4 n0 o0 q0 s0 g0
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk
Hi.

Could someone kindly check...2714 LGW - AGP for tomorrow please? 14th.

Thank you.
Blown pensions coming in from the front with a moderate chance of scattered stags across the back.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 4:13 pm
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Evening all, please can someone check BA175 LHR-JFK on Sunday 29? (And as I’m no expert pls clarify in layman’s terms what the result means ) Thanks!
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by TPRun
Evening all, please can someone check BA175 LHR-JFK on Sunday 29? (And as I’m no expert pls clarify in layman’s terms what the result means ) Thanks!
As I understand it: To understand the breakdown, each cabin has multiple fares within it, but these don’t necessarily mean that there are that total amount of seats available. Just look for big numbers next to each letter for lots of availability or 0 next to the letter for no availability in that cabin, if there’s a zero next to every letter then the flight is full.

First Class fare letters: F, A
CW fares: J, C, D, R, I
Premium (WTP): W, E, T
Economy: Y, B, H, K, M, L, V, N, S, O

Hopefully I’ve got that right and it helps

I don’t know loads for your or any flights tho!
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 8:15 pm
  #1553  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
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Re: LHR-JFK on April 29th

These are the numbers for that flight:

F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 S6 N6 Q0 O0 G0

So.... some seats in Economy, perhaps a few in Premium Eco, Business has lots of free seats and First looks full....
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by DavidYYC
Re: LHR-JFK on April 29th

These are the numbers for that flight:

F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 S6 N6 Q0 O0 G0

So.... some seats in Economy, perhaps a few in Premium Eco, Business has lots of free seats and First looks full....
thank you! That makes me feel good as I’m on an avois 241 redemption booking in business!
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 3:23 am
  #1555  
 
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Hello. Please could someone check BA0458 LHR-MAD on 16APR. Thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by Voda_boy
Hello. Please could someone check BA0458 LHR-MAD on 16APR. Thanks in advance.
UK POS

J5 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 3:25 am
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Join Date: Feb 2016
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Originally Posted by voda_boy
hello. Please could someone check ba0458 lhr-mad on 16apr. Thanks in advance.
uk pos

ba 458
lhr 16/04/18 7:20
mad 16/04/18 10:50
321
j5 c0 d0 r0 i0 y3 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 n0 o0 q0 s0 g0
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 5:46 am
  #1558  
 
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BA276 HYD-LHR 15th April

The outbound LHR-HYD BA277 arriving HYD at 05:15 n 15/4/18 is now showing as a B787-9 on FlightView.

I’m currently booked in 3A on BA276 HYD-LHR departing HYD 07:20 on 15/4/18 and have checked in online but mobile boarding pass unavailable.

Would I be correct in thinking I will now be moved into a different seat at bag drop/check-in as usually this route is flown by B787-8 aircraft - if in fact the plane will be a B787-9 my current Seat 3A will not be. Club World. If so could someone please check Seat availability and advise the best seats still showing as available.

Thank you

Last edited by scubap; Apr 14, 2018 at 5:58 am
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 6:29 am
  #1559  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 12
Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk
uk pos

ba 458
lhr 16/04/18 7:20
mad 16/04/18 10:50
321
j5 c0 d0 r0 i0 y3 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 n0 o0 q0 s0 g0
Originally Posted by scubap
The outbound LHR-HYD BA277 arriving HYD at 05:15 n 15/4/18 is now showing as a B787-9 on FlightView.

I’m currently booked in 3A on BA276 HYD-LHR departing HYD 07:20 on 15/4/18 and have checked in online but mobile boarding pass unavailable.

Would I be correct in thinking I will now be moved into a different seat at bag drop/check-in as usually this route is flown by B787-8 aircraft - if in fact the plane will be a B787-9 my current Seat 3A will not be. Club World. If so could someone please check Seat availability and advise the best seats still showing as available.

Thank you
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 2:56 pm
  #1560  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Programs: BA Silver - hard drop from GGL :( SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, AC E50k
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Would really appreciate if someone could check BA93 (LHR-YYZ) on Apr 16 and return BA92 (YYZ-LHR) in Apr 22

thank you so much in advance!
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